BBFS - Eerily Similar - Skelly, you said it

littleguy · 03-29-2001, 12:21 PM

Skelley,

I wonder how many times situations like this actually happen ? As you probably recall there were 3 issues in the last incident. In this current (just finished ?) one there was only the one issue, apparently BBFS.

But somehow in this latest incident, postings were made regarding "brutality" and "rape" which now, apparently NEVER occurred.

There was a thread somewhere I remember about BBFS and whether it was wise to partake. I believe the consensus was that a hobbyist should always assume that a lady has had BBFS with SOMEONE and therefore whatever risk is present under such a situation you must assume is present every time you see ANY lady.

Presumably that makes BBFS something we should avoid.

As you said, "eerily similar". As you might expect I do not see any difference in the 2 incidents and my perspective is no different now than it was then.

Doesn't seem to have changed Ozzy's perspective either and I for one, don't blame him.

Ozzy, seems like you were right about her all along, no ? Interesting review..........

Good for you you're not involved, either.

Health,
LG

[Edited by littleguy on 03-29-2001 at 04:21 PM]

guy catelli · 03-29-2001, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by littleguy
Skelley,

I wonder how many times situations like this actually happen ? As you probably recall there were 3 issues in the last incident. In this current (just finished ?) one there was only the one issue, apparently BBFS.

But somehow in this latest incident, postings were made regarding "brutality" and "rape" which now, apparently NEVER occurred.

There was a thread somewhere I remember about BBFS and whether it was wise to partake. I believe the consensus was that a hobbyist should always assume that a lady has had BBFS with SOMEONE and therefore whatever risk is present under such a situation you must assume is present every time you see ANY lady.

Presumably that makes BBFS something we should avoid.

As you said, "eerily similar". As you might expect I do not see any difference in the 2 incidents and my perspective is no different now than it was then.

Doesn't seem to have changed Ozzy's perspective either and I for one, don't blame him.

Ozzy, seems like you were right about her all along, no ? Interesting review..........

Good for you you're not involved, either.

Health,
LG

LG, are you trying to have it just a little bit both ways here? you seem to imply that you're not talking about it -- at the same time that you actually are talking about it.

littleguy · 03-29-2001, 12:44 PM

G.C.

Must you cut and paste every post you reply to ? Don't you think the reader could "page up" to read the previous post ?

Anyway, I don't quite understand. You said "you (littleguy)seem to imply that you're not talking about it".

How did I imply I'm not talking about it ?

Ozzy · 03-29-2001, 01:19 PM

actually, about her......i was dead wrong.

about her situation.....i was never so right.

Phantom · 03-29-2001, 01:26 PM

Littleguy,

A little hint about why GC ALWAYS "cuts and pastes" a post by another poster that he (GC) to replying to.

It's because he does not want the other poster to go back and edit the post that GC to refering to. I believe several posters have taken issue with things that GC has written only to have GC go back and edit his post that caused a problem.

guy catelli · 03-29-2001, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phantom
Littleguy,

A little hint about why GC ALWAYS "cuts and pastes" a post by another poster that he (GC) to replying to.

It's because he does not want the other poster to go back and edit the post that GC to refering to. I believe several posters have taken issue with things that GC has written only to have GC go back and edit his post that caused a problem.

if i agree with someone who points out that something is a problem, i edit it.

Phantom · 03-29-2001, 01:43 PM

...and THAT's why YOU always cut and paste others posts, so THEY CAN NOT get rid of the offending material completely. They can edit THEIR own posts, but can not delete the body of their own posts when YOU cut and paste it, since they can not edit the same material out of your posts.

[Edited by Phantom on 03-29-2001 at 05:46 PM]

littleguy · 03-29-2001, 01:46 PM

Phantom,

How come you never answered my e-mail ? You mad at me or somethin' ?

BTW, have I got a lead for you.

Phantom · 03-29-2001, 01:49 PM

Not mad at you or anybody else with the possible exception of GC. Just not answering ANY email. And I do not care to travel to Philly.

Phantom · 03-29-2001, 01:51 PM

I can get a very well known northern NJ escort for a longer period of time for only $200 more. And I don't have a chance of going to jail seeing her.

Phantom · 03-29-2001, 01:57 PM

Anyone ever been in a county jail? Let me tell you, it's not pleasant.

guy catelli · 03-29-2001, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phantom
...and THAT's why YOU always cut and paste others posts,

i never did until the last 24 hours.

guy catelli · 03-29-2001, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phantom
Not mad at you or anybody else with the possible exception of GC. Just not answering ANY email. And I do not care to travel to Philly.

{chuckling} man, you're mad at everybody!

littleguy · 03-29-2001, 02:24 PM

Phantom,

Who put a burr under your saddle ?

Yeesh.

Phantom · 03-29-2001, 02:32 PM

In regards to the topic of this thread, I've had a similar experience. Let me tell you the story and then you decide whether BBFS and more was offered.

I had become a regular of this one particular girl. I had seen this girl for close to a year and each meeting was never less then 24 hours. Sometimes it was for several days. This one meeting, which turned into our last took place a couple of yeas ago at my house at the NJ shore. I was sitting at one end of a sofa and she was lying on her side, completely naked with her head on my lap. We were watching a movie on TV.

She keep insisting that my hands roam over her naked body. At one point as my hands were stroking her ass, my finger came to rest on her puckered rosebud. No insertion, just on the outside. Since she said nothing or did nothing to stop this, I just continued what I was doing.

All of a sudden she jumps up and drags me into the bedroom, where she jumps on the bed into the classic doggie style postion. Legs spread, ass up in the air, and her head on the bed. She looks back at me and tells me that I can do, "whatever I want to her". OK. So I start making suggestions to see just how far she means.

At one point I asked her if it was OK for me to use this HUGE red jelly dildo on her. I had entirely for a novelity thing and it was HUGE. Before this she had told that she would NEVER use this. Any suggestion that I would make about doing whatever I wanted with her was met with the same answer, "you can do whatever you want with me", except for the last time when she added, "however you want".

Here was a girl who had NEVER been hinted at for doing greek and yet here she was offering it to me and I ask you was she offering it BB?

To wrap up this story, because of things she had said tp earlier in the day and she had a couple of drinks, and I do mean just a couple of glasses of wine, I figured that I would have another chance and I flipped her over and ate her for what seemed an eternity. I had seen her many times drink more and be more drunk then she was that night and she had NEVER acted like she did that night.

So I ask you, the other posters of this board, was I offered BBFS AND BBG that night?

Tankcommander · 03-29-2001, 02:36 PM

You are one DUMM FUCK!

No offense, just jealous I wasn't in your...well, since you weren't wearinf shoes....in your skin....LOL

Phantom · 03-29-2001, 02:40 PM

TC,

was that a yes? And it would totally floor you just who I'm talking about.

littleguy · 03-29-2001, 03:00 PM

I'd say that was a YES.

guy catelli · 03-29-2001, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by littleguy
How did I imply I'm not talking about it ?

" ... In this current (just finished ?) one ..."

guy catelli · 03-29-2001, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by littleguy
.... in this latest incident, postings were made regarding "brutality" and "rape" which now, apparently NEVER occurred.

... As you might expect I do not see any difference in the 2 incidents ...

Tankcommander · 03-29-2001, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phantom
Anyone ever been in a county jail? Let me tell you, it's not pleasant.

Fort Leavenworth, Queens Central Booking, Federal Administrative lockup...FCI's low to high...

and spending half of your sentence on "diesel therapy"

Never let them take your dignity!

guy catelli · 03-29-2001, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tankcommander

Quote:

Originally posted by Phantom
Anyone ever been in a county jail? Let me tell you, it's not pleasant.

Fort Leavenworth, Queens Central Booking, Federal Administrative lockup...FCI's low to high...

and spending half of your sentence on "diesel therapy"

Never let them take your dignity!

{chuckling} i was locked up three time before i was even out of high school -- and i went to the kind of school where that didn't happen (but, like SB said, i'm a 'special case'

). no big deal -- weapons, auto theft -- kid stuff.

now, just between one 'jailhouse lawyer' and another, what do you think of a client who is, by all accounts, Mr. Soave with escorts, yet gets his personal information outed by two different escorts in less than two months?

and, i just did a search on *** ny escorts. Alyssa's never explained 'accident' occurred right around the time of her date with Mr. Soave.

why do you think so many bad things happen to so many good escorts when he's around them?

oh, just to tie this in with Phantom's question, in almost 30 years at this thing of ours, with ~100 women (who counts?), not one single 'accusation' has been made against a 'devil' with two left feet like me.

SkellyChamp · 03-29-2001, 08:28 PM

Ozzy
I respect your forthrightness re: the girl - and that you wouldn't have done anything differently.

Littleguy - i'm wondering (not suggesting) whether the fact that it happened again (the exposure I mean) gave you a slight sense of satisfaction - vindication wise i mean. i probably didn't say that right but you know what i mean.

And I have been offered BBFS.

Tankcommander · 03-29-2001, 08:30 PM

The stuff I did didn't catch up with me till I was 25...

I was hanging with the wrong crowd, and ended up as security for a couple of "Wiseguys". I'm not Italian, not even white, and I always wore a Sears suit and a crew cut... that got me out of a lot of potential trouble. Until, one day, the wiseguy started talking.... Luckily, I had no involvement in their day to day stuff and thus, drew a very light sentence, but leading up to that... whew, stuff you only saw in movies that you didn't think they did in real life.

And guy, either there's a lot of bad Karma around this guy, or there's a conspiracy against him...

guy catelli · 03-29-2001, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tankcommander
.... guy, either there's a lot of bad Karma around this guy, or there's a conspiracy against him...

uh huh ... well, let me ask you this: would you still want to go to a drinking party with him?

Tankcommander · 03-29-2001, 08:47 PM

built and disarmed bombs, and traded bullets with someone who didn't like me...

The most dangerous thing I ever did was let a girlfriend blow me only hours after she found pictures of me having sex with another woman.

Drinks with strangers?

I can take my chances with that especially if there are others around that I trust...

even so, none of it's been proven yet...

Discretion is the better part of valor. I never said I was brave, just stupid.

guy catelli · 03-29-2001, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tankcommander
Drinks with strangers?

I can take my chances with that especially if there are others around that I trust...

no disrespect to Ozzy; but, i don't even want him to be able to i.d. me. cause then, i'd have to keep my mouth shut if i heard too many things from too many 'conspirators' that have never even heard of one another.

Tankcommander · 03-29-2001, 09:05 PM

Be careful of what you say, not who you know, or what you know...

They can only convict you if they have you on tape...

guy catelli · 03-29-2001, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tankcommander
...They can only convict you if they have you on tape...

uh huh -- and only if the complainant is someone willing to take the stand and testify.

NYS Penal Code. Art. 130

S 130.35 Rape in the first degree.
A person is guilty of rape in the first degree when he or she engages
in sexual intercourse with another person:
................; or
2. Who is incapable of consent by reason of being physically helpless; or .........

.... Rape in the first degree is a class B felony.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/nycodes/law82/art29.html

Tankcommander · 03-29-2001, 10:15 PM

that provides that you cannot be convicted upon the testimony of co-conspirators alone...

rape has nothing to do with what we're talking about right now...

But while we're on the subject, you planning on raping a hobbyist?

[Edited by Tankcommander on 03-30-2001 at 02:17 AM]

03-29-2001, 02:36 PM	#16
Tankcommander Silver Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 357 vCash: 500	If you didn't know.... You are one DUMM FUCK! No offense, just jealous I wasn't in your...well, since you weren't wearinf shoes....in your skin....LOL

03-29-2001, 08:30 PM	#24
Tankcommander Silver Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 357 vCash: 500	I was lucky.. The stuff I did didn't catch up with me till I was 25... I was hanging with the wrong crowd, and ended up as security for a couple of "Wiseguys". I'm not Italian, not even white, and I always wore a Sears suit and a crew cut... that got me out of a lot of potential trouble. Until, one day, the wiseguy started talking.... Luckily, I had no involvement in their day to day stuff and thus, drew a very light sentence, but leading up to that... whew, stuff you only saw in movies that you didn't think they did in real life. And guy, either there's a lot of bad Karma around this guy, or there's a conspiracy against him...

03-29-2001, 08:47 PM	#26
Tankcommander Silver Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 357 vCash: 500	I crawled into a burning Tank once... built and disarmed bombs, and traded bullets with someone who didn't like me... The most dangerous thing I ever did was let a girlfriend blow me only hours after she found pictures of me having sex with another woman. Drinks with strangers? I can take my chances with that especially if there are others around that I trust... even so, none of it's been proven yet... Discretion is the better part of valor. I never said I was brave, just stupid.

03-29-2001, 09:05 PM	#28
Tankcommander Silver Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 357 vCash: 500	Isn't that a little paranoid.. Be careful of what you say, not who you know, or what you know... They can only convict you if they have you on tape...

03-29-2001, 10:15 PM	#30
Tankcommander Silver Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 357 vCash: 500	I do recall that there is some statute or precce that provides that you cannot be convicted upon the testimony of co-conspirators alone... rape has nothing to do with what we're talking about right now... But while we're on the subject, you planning on raping a hobbyist? [Edited by Tankcommander on 03-30-2001 at 02:17 AM]

03-29-2001, 12:21 PM	#1
littleguy Gold Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,004 vCash: 500	Skelley, I wonder how many times situations like this actually happen ? As you probably recall there were 3 issues in the last incident. In this current (just finished ?) one there was only the one issue, apparently BBFS. But somehow in this latest incident, postings were made regarding "brutality" and "rape" which now, apparently NEVER occurred. There was a thread somewhere I remember about BBFS and whether it was wise to partake. I believe the consensus was that a hobbyist should always assume that a lady has had BBFS with SOMEONE and therefore whatever risk is present under such a situation you must assume is present every time you see ANY lady. Presumably that makes BBFS something we should avoid. As you said, "eerily similar". As you might expect I do not see any difference in the 2 incidents and my perspective is no different now than it was then. Doesn't seem to have changed Ozzy's perspective either and I for one, don't blame him. Ozzy, seems like you were right about her all along, no ? Interesting review.......... Good for you you're not involved, either. Health, LG [Edited by littleguy on 03-29-2001 at 04:21 PM]

03-29-2001, 12:44 PM	#3
littleguy Gold Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,004 vCash: 500	G.C. Must you cut and paste every post you reply to ? Don't you think the reader could "page up" to read the previous post ? Anyway, I don't quite understand. You said "you (littleguy)seem to imply that you're not talking about it". How did I imply I'm not talking about it ?

03-29-2001, 01:19 PM	#4
Ozzy Gold Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 15,431 vCash: 500	actually, about her......i was dead wrong. about her situation.....i was never so right.

03-29-2001, 01:26 PM	#5
Phantom Gold Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,806 vCash: 500	Littleguy, A little hint about why GC ALWAYS "cuts and pastes" a post by another poster that he (GC) to replying to. It's because he does not want the other poster to go back and edit the post that GC to refering to. I believe several posters have taken issue with things that GC has written only to have GC go back and edit his post that caused a problem.

03-29-2001, 01:43 PM	#7
Phantom Gold Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,806 vCash: 500	...and THAT's why YOU always cut and paste others posts, so THEY CAN NOT get rid of the offending material completely. They can edit THEIR own posts, but can not delete the body of their own posts when YOU cut and paste it, since they can not edit the same material out of your posts. [Edited by Phantom on 03-29-2001 at 05:46 PM]

03-29-2001, 01:46 PM	#8
littleguy Gold Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,004 vCash: 500	Phantom, How come you never answered my e-mail ? You mad at me or somethin' ? BTW, have I got a lead for you.

03-29-2001, 01:49 PM	#9
Phantom Gold Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,806 vCash: 500	Not mad at you or anybody else with the possible exception of GC. Just not answering ANY email. And I do not care to travel to Philly.

03-29-2001, 01:51 PM	#10
Phantom Gold Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,806 vCash: 500	I can get a very well known northern NJ escort for a longer period of time for only $200 more. And I don't have a chance of going to jail seeing her.

03-29-2001, 01:57 PM	#11
Phantom Gold Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,806 vCash: 500	Anyone ever been in a county jail? Let me tell you, it's not pleasant.

03-29-2001, 02:24 PM	#14
littleguy Gold Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,004 vCash: 500	Phantom, Who put a burr under your saddle ? Yeesh.

03-29-2001, 02:32 PM	#15
Phantom Gold Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,806 vCash: 500	In regards to the topic of this thread, I've had a similar experience. Let me tell you the story and then you decide whether BBFS and more was offered. I had become a regular of this one particular girl. I had seen this girl for close to a year and each meeting was never less then 24 hours. Sometimes it was for several days. This one meeting, which turned into our last took place a couple of yeas ago at my house at the NJ shore. I was sitting at one end of a sofa and she was lying on her side, completely naked with her head on my lap. We were watching a movie on TV. She keep insisting that my hands roam over her naked body. At one point as my hands were stroking her ass, my finger came to rest on her puckered rosebud. No insertion, just on the outside. Since she said nothing or did nothing to stop this, I just continued what I was doing. All of a sudden she jumps up and drags me into the bedroom, where she jumps on the bed into the classic doggie style postion. Legs spread, ass up in the air, and her head on the bed. She looks back at me and tells me that I can do, "whatever I want to her". OK. So I start making suggestions to see just how far she means. At one point I asked her if it was OK for me to use this HUGE red jelly dildo on her. I had entirely for a novelity thing and it was HUGE. Before this she had told that she would NEVER use this. Any suggestion that I would make about doing whatever I wanted with her was met with the same answer, "you can do whatever you want with me", except for the last time when she added, "however you want". Here was a girl who had NEVER been hinted at for doing greek and yet here she was offering it to me and I ask you was she offering it BB? To wrap up this story, because of things she had said tp earlier in the day and she had a couple of drinks, and I do mean just a couple of glasses of wine, I figured that I would have another chance and I flipped her over and ate her for what seemed an eternity. I had seen her many times drink more and be more drunk then she was that night and she had NEVER acted like she did that night. So I ask you, the other posters of this board, was I offered BBFS AND BBG that night?

03-29-2001, 02:40 PM	#17
Phantom Gold Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,806 vCash: 500	TC, was that a yes? And it would totally floor you just who I'm talking about.

03-29-2001, 03:00 PM	#18
littleguy Gold Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,004 vCash: 500	I'd say that was a YES.

03-29-2001, 08:28 PM	#23
SkellyChamp Gold Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,002 vCash: 500	Ozzy I respect your forthrightness re: the girl - and that you wouldn't have done anything differently. Littleguy - i'm wondering (not suggesting) whether the fact that it happened again (the exposure I mean) gave you a slight sense of satisfaction - vindication wise i mean. i probably didn't say that right but you know what i mean. And I have been offered BBFS.

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