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Old 09-01-2002, 01:42 PM   #1
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REVIEWS-What obligation do I have regarding the provider?

Ive never posted a review without permission of the provider.
On 2 occasions, the provider was a ripoff, so I just wanted to let the other ug members know.
If a provider tells me she doesnt care for a review, does that mean I cant let anyone know about her service provided?
I have read reviews on UG on so many of the girls Ive seen.
Ive avoided some girls because of so-so reviews.

If I post a review, am I breaking some type of agreement?
I understand that the provider will never see me again, but if thats not important to me, do I have to obey her request?
(this is not directed at any provider, alot have asked me not to review, but I was curious as to how other ug members feel.Please dont base your response on my reviews since one doesnt have to care for my reviews in order to post an honest response.)
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Old 09-01-2002, 01:49 PM   #2
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BMM if she asked you not to review her, then by all means be honorable and do not post a review.

If she did not rip you off and you had a pleasant time with her, why must you feel the need to post a review if she requested not to be reviewed?

If you were to go and review this lady, after she asked you not to, you would not only being showing you have no regard for a ladies wishes, but also it would prove what has been said many times by many members here...

Men posting reviews is not about the girl, its about the men bragging to make himself look good..

Dont do it. Respect her wishes..

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Old 09-01-2002, 01:52 PM   #3
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Cool your jets baby.....Kimmie.....Ive never done it and I never will...its just a question.

I think I struck a nerve.

I know you think its all about the bragging, but I have based many sessions on the perfomance level expressed in other reviews.
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Old 09-01-2002, 01:54 PM   #4
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Simply put...If she was really great and doesn't want to be reviewed, I would honor her request. If she was good or fair and didn't want to be reviewed, I would honor her request. If she was a total rip-off then I think that all bets are off and a post about that experience is the right thing to do.
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Old 09-01-2002, 02:02 PM   #5
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BMM you need to cool your jets hun. You hit no nerve with me. You asked a question I gave an answer.


How could anyone not see how doing something someone asked you not to do as not being a bad thing?

Regardless of whether or not you will see her again. If she made an appointment with you based on the agreement that you would not review her, then it is quite obvious that you would be breaking an agreement. Also you would have purposely misled her just to get the appointment. IF that was the basis of her making the appointment.

And I dont know about anyone else but it sure sounded to me as if you were thinking of doing this...

but I have been wrong before...

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Old 09-01-2002, 02:05 PM   #6
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If I have a good experience with a provider and would like to make that information available in a review I will ask the provider, and honor her wishes.

If I had an average experience, or if the provider is well known and my experience was generally consistent with the other reviews which have been posted, I usually will not post a review and do not raise the topic with the provider.

If I got ripped off, or had an unfavorable experience, which I think would be useful for others to be aware of, I will not ask but I will post the information.

I think it is my right to post true information about the experiences I have. When the information is positive, I want to be sure that the provider is comfortable with sharing the information.

I have never been in the situation where I had a bad experience, did not raise the issue of posting a review, and unsolicited, was asked by the provider not to. If it ever were to happen I do not think I would agree not to post the negative information, but if for some reason I did agree not to, I wouldn't
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Old 09-01-2002, 02:11 PM   #7
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reviews can be intimidating, at least for me. And sometimes not.
I truly appreciate when a client takes time to express his experience with me for everyone to know.
Twice I felt a pang of doubt before meeting someone I know reviews the providers down to the points to each physical attribute or performance.
The first one was Rooster. I truly thought about for a long time before I decided to see him. I've read his reviews of other providers and I knew how picky and critical he could be.
We've met few times since the first and he's one of the best clients/reviewers a provider could ask for. He's honest, sincere and considerate. A true gentleman and I love every minute spent in his company.
The second time I felt the jitters was with former Mr Bill Furniture, not only because he's a true legend in the whoreboards, but also because of his "evaluation points" lol (not to mention his standing 69 thing).
Also, we discussed things beforehand and I asked him not to cum all the way to my neck of the woods just to review me, but to have a heck of a good time for few hours.
He came, cummed (uff almost 6 hours of it) and conquered my fears, he's funny and a sweetheart and I start to love him to pieces.
When I'm with a client, I don't know if he's going to place a review of me or not and I don't even ask the question, because is not in my mind when I'm with him.
But, if is a guy who is well known around because of his reviews, I might feel different because I"m going to wonder if he will be watching me with microscopic eyes and feeling my body with those probbing fingers lol...
But I'm just going to find out for sure when I meet him in person.
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Old 09-01-2002, 02:21 PM   #8
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When other publications review restaurants, plays, etc. they do not ask for anyone's permission. I don't think any of us should feel compelled to ask for permission either, especially if the person you hired made a poor effort or misrepresented themselves.

However, if you did have a good experience with someone it would be a nice gesture to let that person know you were interested in writing a review. If they really don't want any extra attention (even if it's good) or are uncomfortable with a detailed account maybe you should take that into consideration.

Sometimes I wonder how these women feel having very personal and intimate details about them passed around on the internet.
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Old 09-01-2002, 02:31 PM   #9
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[Regardless of whether or not you will see her again. If she made an appointment with you based on the agreement that you would not review her, then it is quite obvious that you would be breaking an agreement. Also you would have purposely misled her just to get the appointment. IF that was the basis of her making the appointment.

And I dont know about anyone else but it sure sounded to me as if you were thinking of doing this...

but I have been wrong before... [/B]

You are so wrong. You are way off base here.!

Regarding every single review Ive posted on this board, every single provider has told me thankyou for a great review.
Oh yeah, Pebbles and Porsche didnt send me a thankyou after they ripped me off.

Dont go making accusations Kimmie.

And what you said at the end of that post is an accusation.
("kimmie-it sure sounded to me as if you were thinking of doing this.")

If I wanted to post here, I would do it.
I dont need anyones permission.
If the moderator feels its an off color post, he will erase it as he has done before.

To all the providers Ive seen and been requested not to review:
I have never failed to honor your request and I will continue to honor all future requests.
This is just a question for UG members to ponder.

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Old 09-01-2002, 02:36 PM   #10
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[B.

Sometimes I wonder how these women feel having very personal and intimate details about them passed around on the internet. [/B]
Im sorry, I agree with everything you post except this.
Some women post on boards and speak of acts that even I dont know about.
They brag about doing things that make me blush.

This is the business of selling ones body and services.
She is using the internet just for this purpose.

I think advertising and discussing openly how much one likes to suck a mans cock, pretty well covers the intimacy and personal stuff.

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Old 09-01-2002, 02:54 PM   #11
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There seems to be an embryonic undertone concerning "bragging"- do members really brag about their exploits and services?
take care
HP

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Old 09-01-2002, 02:58 PM   #12
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Men posting reviews is not about the girl, its about the men bragging to make himself look good..

Not true. I know I can only speak for myself, but I review so others might know what to expect. Bragging? Why would we brag about paying for sex. I save my bragging for conquests made on bored houswives, old school classmats, mothers of kids my kids play with, ect.
It is about the girl Kimmie. Sorry but your 100% wrong on this one. We rate the girls on their service. It makes it hard when some of you become our cyber friends and we gain a measure of respect for you. (Yes Miss Green Eyes, I really do respect your opinion).
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Old 09-01-2002, 03:31 PM   #13
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Im sorry, I agree with everything you post except this.
Some women post on boards and speak of acts that even I dont know about.
They brag about doing things that make me blush.
Speaking for myself only, there is a big difference between talking about acts in the abstract or hypothetically for the purpose of discussion, and revealing intimate details of a true event.
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Old 09-01-2002, 04:00 PM   #14
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Dont ask

Why even ask. Unless she is an UTR girl and would like to remain that way, it is in the best interests of the hobby to pass on this information. This is extremely important when dealing with an agency. In these cases you are not only reviewing the provider but the agency as well. If you dont post a review, then someone else will. Seeing that YMMV ends up in quite a lot of reviews, it would benefit the masses to have as many reviews as possible. That way we can access a providers services from an average stand point, rather than read a bad review of someone who had a bad session because, so-and-so had a bad day. Or, a shill post. You can spot these on TER when multiple reviews pop up for the same agency in a one week period.

I know many hobbyiests will not even see a provider unless she has been reviewed multiple times. I myself will also look to see who the reviewer has reviewed in the past, to see if it all tends to be toward one agency, and also to check for consistencies.
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Old 09-01-2002, 04:05 PM   #15
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who listens

who listens to reviews anyway?

AKA, when was the last time a legitimate provider asked NOT to be reviewed?? Only when they are so successful that they don't want any more business, and in that case, how did YOU (generic)hear about them in the first place??

Oh yeah, I can imagine a cash and dash gal yelling over her shoulder "Don't tell anybody!" as she runs to Bruno in the car....


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Old 09-01-2002, 04:19 PM   #16
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BMM I already said in my post I could be wrong. And I also wrote IF. Please read everything I write next time.

I am not saying men post reviews to brag, I was simply reapeating a debate held here not too long ago whether or not reviews are indeed about the girl being reviewed or the person doing the reviewing. So please dont jump down my throat and READ what I write more carefully.

Billy, who would have thought that me having green eyes and dark hair would make you respect my opinion?

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Old 09-01-2002, 04:27 PM   #17
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BMM I am not saying men post reviews to brag,

Well Kimmie I'll say it. Some men do post reviews to brag.

Sort of saying to their cyber buddies, "did you see you I Fucked?" Why do you think that pornstars get the prices they do? It's because they want to brag to their buddies, "that they did her" while watching one of her movies.
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Old 09-01-2002, 04:47 PM   #18
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To post or not to post

BMM

I think the answer to you question is simple.
If a providered doesn't wish to be reviewed than don't. But that shouldn't stop anyone from sharing the fact that a session was a rip off.
This is not a true review board put a place to openly exchange info. about this hobbie.
Share the facts that made the session a rip off and avoid the intimate details of a clasic review.

Short Time, one pop and out, no FS etc.

She may not like it but hopefully the overall service level will improve.
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Old 09-01-2002, 05:26 PM   #19
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the truth is only obligation IMHO

you dont ask airline or restaurant for permission to review. there is a reason why restaurant reviewers for NYTimes try to remain anonymous.
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Old 09-01-2002, 05:45 PM   #20
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"Speaking for myself only, there is a big difference between talking about acts in the abstract or hypothetically for the purpose of discussion, and revealing intimate details of a true event." -- Caitlin of New York

Now Caitlin, everyone knows, including LE, that the events posted on this board are purely fictitious!

As for me I must agree with RWiggum that resturants, plays, movies, etc. aren't even consulted when being reviewed. Why should I, as a paying customer, feel obligated to even inform a provider or agency that I am reviewing their performance or service? I don't think that review boards are a secret to the providers. They all know that their performance may be reviewed. As a reader of this board, I depend on the other contributors to give a fair and honest assessment of their experiences with providers. The more a provider is reviewed, the better the chance that a negative review can be observed as an anomoly rather than the rule. Or one could see a trend in a providers level of service. This can only help both the provider and client. IMHO.
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Old 09-01-2002, 06:10 PM   #21
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As usual, I think the "outliers" are the easiest:

If some woman adverstises all over the place, and has other reviews up on every public site out there, as well as advertisements/postos on message boards/etc., I don't think it matters. For example, if Shauna asked not to be reviewed by some guy, I don't think it would be valid since she's been all over TER, ***, etc. for years.

On tghe other end, if there was someone who had never placed an ad anywhere, never been reviewed anywhere, never posted anywhere, and the only way you could even see her was by some referal, then i think you really have to think before exposing her against her wished with some review on any very public forum.

The question is, where is line that really divides these two ends of the spectrum ? Also, do you really have to ask each and every provider about reviewing them ? I think there are tons of them who would have no idea what you were talking about and get unnecessarily freaked out ( just like when some guy calls up a non-interent related provider and starts peppering her with "Are you a GFE ? Do you BBBJ ? How many shots on goal ?" ).
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Old 09-01-2002, 06:19 PM   #22
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I agree men do post and do bragging rights of who they have met, especially porn star, or high end girls, they want everyone to know I have the monetary means to meet her.
If a girl does not want to be reviewed obey her wishes, if she says nothing, do what you normally do, if you review every girl that you see continue to write about your sexcapades.
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Old 09-01-2002, 06:46 PM   #23
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Men posting reviews is not about the girl, its about the men bragging to make himself look good..

Kimmie this statement is so true for some posters on UG. BBM she hits your nail right on the head in my book. (Nothing personal but I that’s the way I see it) Please take a minute and read a couple of Billy’s reviews. The guy is one of the best on this board. I have followed him to a couple of places and he has been balls on. His reviews are not self-serving pontifications. I have been to several places that he has recommended and I have never been disappointed. Please do not get me wrong BMM gives some valuable information that most guys here on UG want to hear. I prefer the Billy style review and I try to write my reviews in a similar manner..
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Old 09-01-2002, 06:46 PM   #24
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( just like when some guy calls up a non-interent related provider and starts peppering her with "Are you a GFE ? Do you BBBJ ? How many shots on goal ?" ). [/B]

On a lighter note, I once asked a girl on phone if she was pse, her response was no, Im half dominican and half cuban.

I once asked another young girl if she ever bbbj.
She said...how long have you been stuttering?

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Old 09-01-2002, 07:00 PM   #25
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lol... funny
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Old 09-01-2002, 07:02 PM   #26
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hey krom
You just gave me a poor review on my writing style.

But the review doesnt bother me because because you are being honest.

So why would a review bother a provider?

Oh yeah, it might affect her business.

Even a shit writer like myself can negatively or positively affect her future income.

Krom- Im glad you found a style you prefer.

It doesnt matter what style I offer.
A positive review is a positive review.
Do I like to brag, damn straight.
What is this board all about?
Any man that post about any woman on this board is posting about his own experience with her.
We all see it differently.
Some guys brag about there incall house experieces.
I went once and all I saw was a couple of junkies waiting to get their next fix.
I never bragged about that.
In the future, might I suggest, in a friendly and decent manner, if my reviews are not to your liking, dont read them anymore.
If your friend billy posted a girl was a piece of shit, Im sure you wouldnt dare see her.
Leave my reviews for the 4 or 5 men here that still want to read my reviews.
Like I always say, when the moderator has had enuf of them, hell delete them in an instant.
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Old 09-01-2002, 07:12 PM   #27
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Slinky I do not agree with you.

I dont know about shauna, but speaking for myself, just because I am "out there" does not mean I should be left open to be reviewed.

I actively post on Ug. That doesnt mean I should be reviewed by any UG member I meet. If he asks me if he can review me, I will tell him NO. If he doesnt ask, I have no say over what he does once he leaves the session.

I met someone not too long ago who asked me why I mislead Ug members about myself. I told him I have my reasons, so please do not mention otherwise. He promised he would not and never did..

My point is.. If the lady asked not to be mentioned or reviewed, regardless if she is a part of a message board, respect her reasons and move on.

And if you are going to review her anyway, dont ask if you can.

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Old 09-01-2002, 07:45 PM   #28
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Billy, who would have thought that me having green eyes and dark hair would make you respect my opinion?
Miss pretty green Eyes, No I respect your opinion because over the course of the last year I have noticed that you stick to your guns You are experienced in the hobby and have something to offer. In the course of some of our "discussions" you have made me see some things in a different light. Sometimes you need a cyber slap in the butt, but you take it like a trooper. I don't always agree with you but you always make me understand why you feel the way you do. Like me you fire from the hip sometimes which really will get a "discussion" going. Now the fact that I've seen your face, and those eyes, well that just makes me want to fuck the shit out of you.
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Old 09-01-2002, 07:49 PM   #29
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How about the guy that reviews the same provider over and over and over again, like we did not read the first time how wonderfull she is.
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Old 09-01-2002, 07:50 PM   #30
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read a couple of Billy’s reviews. The guy is one of the best on this board. I have followed him to a couple of places and he has been balls on.
I'm blushing. Thanks Krom. By the way Krom, did you ever make it to Linden Place?
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