That grows out of what I said. I've never met a woman who didn't expect something of value just for the *possibility* of something sensual. Think about it. What percentage of women volunteer to pay their own way when they are taken ou to dinner, movies, ect? I want to point out that this was gathered from my experiences with mostly black women who are notoriously materialistic.(I'm a black male). Of course there are exceptios to every rule, but now that I'm over 40, being practical tells me that if I haven't found that pot of gold then it probably will not happen.(That's why I find myself reading and posting to this forum).