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Discussion in 'General Industry Related Topics' started by rodpeters2001, Jul 7, 2001.

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  1. Slinky Bender

    Slinky Bender The All Powerful Moderator

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    Ok, more talking about talking.

    There's another thread where you guys are already bashing eachother over the head, so we don't need this one two. Anyone else who wants to leap on that pile, I'm sure you can find the fire from the smoke.
  2. Ozzy

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    i gave you what you wanted but you refuse to look at the truth...

    you wasted my time.

    you asked for proof... i gave you some. if you choose not to look at it or except it.... then shut the fuck up already.



    THE TRUTH HURTS DOESN'T IT!

    [Edited by Ozzy on 07-11-2001 at 11:40 AM]
  3. Humble Narrator

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    This is probably a waste of my time, but...

    Life is too short to spend it frivolously. I will simply say that you, sir, are extraordinary. Your congnition is of rare form. I won't pretend to understand you, but I do perceive you as dangerous, to yourself and others.

    Your ability to weave such a byzantine tapestry of deception, conspiracy and outrage is truly impressive and truly disturbing. I don't doubt that there are bits of truth in your rantings, but it is so occluded by the extraneous noise that it has become meaningless.

    I don't honestly think it serves any good purpose to continue this exchange.
  4. Humble Narrator

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    check out "details not originally included" post

    Hi JMP

    I would respectfully disagree with a couple of key statements you've made here.

    If you go back and look at my response to the critical post about Alex, you will see that I first apologized for not mentioning info that some might have felt was highly relevant. I then went on to say that for me it wasn't really important. This is not "defending her" as far as I can see. In fact, while I was composing the first review, the whole bra thing never entered my mind. If it had, I probably would have mentioned it. So, your statement that I "chose not to" mention this is not accurate.

    On the other hand, I have in fact posted non-positive reviews of ladies that I neither new to be favored or not favored on these boards. This is easily verifiable.

    As for the fellow who complained about the missing info in my post, he ultimately told us that he liked Alex on the whole and was just a little unhappy about what he thought was an ommission, intentional or not, of important information.

    I viewed that whole thread as educational and will definitely keep in mind the idea that I should try and expand my comments to cover some basic things that might be important to others, but not necessarily to me. I have in fact done this in other ways in the past.

    Thanks for your input.
  5. Ozzy

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    easy there EW..

    we don't want to be accused of leading a militia. it's bad enough we're in a fan club.
  6. ew

    ew Silver

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    re: tommy

    Same thing I asked before and, sidestepping everything else for the moment, sinks whatever else he says about her.

    But pointing this out qualifies as holding an online grudge now?
  7. Ozzy

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    HN...

    how long have you been reading the boards? if it's more than 6-8 months than your playing games here or your incredibly stupid. sorry but thats the only thing i can say. it's been written all over tbd (your favorite board?) since last november till now. at least a hundred different posts, threads, mentions ect..

    if you've been here for only a short time than let me explain.....

    tommy.... tommy's been searching for B2S on tbd. go look it's there. then he posted her old name which she prefers not to use nor have posted....we're all clear on that right...she did change it for a reason....duh! so he had a bad time all around over a year ago. so why is he looking for that lousy provider now, a year later...ask yourself that.


    next....theres this provider who i don't think i have to name (unless we're really playing stupid). she posts on tbd quite regularly. she also likes to slam other providers in her area for no good reason. she also made a threat towards another provider right here on UG. some of you might not have taken it that way but the girl it was directed to absolutely took it that way. and she is the one who counts. (am i making this stuff up?) well perhaps i am...

    but....

    why not look for yourself right here on UG (it's here) then look on tbd ny about two maybe three weeks ago and see if she's making accusations against some un-named provider (if it wasn't deleted, then i'm sure someone here saw it anyway). thats the most recent... find that, read it, admit i'm right and i'll show you to lots more fun stuff.

    i don't want to attack this girl but she's retired a few too many providers and when you all bitch about there being no one left on LI......well don't say ozzy didn't tell you.

    you and people like wsb wanted to come here and bust my f*cking balls, and try and make believe that this shit didn't happen? i wasn't going to post any more in this thread.... but my pal wsb just couldn't let go...so here i am having to explain it like i'm talking to children.

    now were all gonna have some fun, my way.


    as for wsb... he's got a bug up his ass for me for a year now. everywhere i go he's up my ass. search just this board and he's up my ass at least a half dozen times. jag maybe more. he doesn't even believe his own posts (he can't because he's smarter than that) he so hung up on attacking me. at this point they're like bb's against a kevlar vest. and i may be stupid (there you can quote me again, enjoy) but i'd never pay $30 or $40 for a plate of tuna fish nor $$$ for a bottle of fuckin 18 yr old scotch.....or was it 15 yr old? 20 yrs was no good right? just so i could tell everyone what a connoisseur i am.

    this board is about this hobby/business of which i've never seen you utter a single post that was relevant to this thing we're all here for.

    so you know what...when you have something relevant to this hobby to add to this board i'll shut my mouth....

    till then EAT ME!

    muitos bisous xoxo
    :)zzy

    [Edited by Ozzy on 07-11-2001 at 03:26 AM]
  8. jmp

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    Humble, but aren't you and I just as guilty of defending Alex when someone was complaining about the fact that she needed to keep her bra on during a session because of her injuries?

    While I had mentioned it in my initial review, you chose not to, then immediately defended her, stating that the session was so good that it didn't matter, when he said that had he known that in advance he would have waited.

    We're all entitled to our opinions. It's fairly safe to say that if you, or Ozzie, or myself, or anyone here has had what we consider to be an incredible experience with a particular lady, that we'd go out of our way to rebutt any suggestion that she's less than wonderful. It's the nature of the connection that some of us form with the ladies we see.

    Likewise, I (and I'm sure others) have refrained from mentioning things publicly after having a nice, but not stellar experience with a lady who has generally received good reviews on this and other boards. In my particular case, I was distracted for other reasons that day, and just didn't click with the lady in question, but could see how I might have if I'd been in a different state of mind. I didn't feel that what I'd experienced was anything more than YMMV in action. I probably won't see that lady again, but I have no ill feelings towards her.

    I have a feeling that those of us who would go out of our way to defend a lady are the same ones who are less likely to give a negative review of a lady who is generally well received.

    Just my 2 cents.
  9. justme

    justme <i>pop and click tainted</i> Vinyl ( is dead )

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    being a lurker is much more fun

    Hear that justlooking? Stop being troublesome.

    (Although Ditto to your ditto)
  10. badz

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    one more thing wsb, so that you know that's exactly what i'm getting at! can't agree with you more, but since you are barking at the wrong tree, i feel no need to say anything more.

    and as far as HN, my post was meant for your encouragement of the type of behavior that wsb had described above. after reading your repost, i see your point which i didn't get from your original post. but i still stand behind what i said, being a lurker is much more fun, and that's just my thinking, take it for what it's worth....

    now you can close it slinky!

    [Edited by badz on 07-10-2001 at 09:04 PM]
  11. Humble Narrator

    Humble Narrator

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    Agreed

    I defer to your wisdom and experience. Suggestions for a thread title?
  12. Slinky Bender

    Slinky Bender The All Powerful Moderator

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    Re: Wow!

    Don't you think that would be better, so as to remove "it" from some of the particullrs tied in to this discussion, which I don't think can be held ( any longer ) in the manner of "general ideology" which it seems it should be ?

    [Edited by slinkybender on 07-10-2001 at 08:45 PM]
  13. Humble Narrator

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    Wow!

    While the subject is definitely not what we started on, I think it is genuinely valuable to this community.

    Perhaps another thread?
  14. badz

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    wsb,
    obviously you don't know what i'm getting at...you are barking at the wrong tree dude!

    so i'd say nothing now....

    have a nice life!
  15. Humble Narrator

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    relevance?

    Reading or posting is an entirely voluntary endeavor. I respect Ozzy for contributing good information when he does so, which is often. That doesn't mean I would be willing to let him decide who can and can't post with impunity. His decision to use innuendo rather than frankly stating what he personally knows (or perhaps thinks he knows) is not in keeping with the spirit of democratic discourse, on which it seems to me this board was founded.

    I have had this discussion before with self-appointed guardians of Truth. Their arguments are impervious to logic, since they don't actually have to say what those arguments are based on. The old saw, "If you knew what we know" doesn't really work, since it depends on my acceptance of someone else doing my thinking for me. No thank you.

    Let's try an experiment. Let's pretend that Ozzy knows that Tommy is actually another provider (or an agent thereof). If he really knows this, why would he not simply say "Tommy is really <prov_name>"? Also necessary would be Ozzy's explanation as to how he knows this. Perhaps IP address mapping, perhaps writing style, but in the end, he would still have to be fair and say how he arrives at this opinion. (FYI, IP mapping is a tricky thing, which is not always as irrefutable as we may be led to believe).

    Barring this blunt accusation, how about if Ozzy, for purely altruistic reasons (work with me here) still wants to defend Truth and decides to simply argue with the false poster in an attempt to get others to see through the sham. How effective might that be? Probably not very, since it will look to the uninitiated like he is simply using playground rantings to make a point.

    So, what should Ozzy do? If he really does know Tommy's identity and motive, then he has a problem, unless of course he is willing to disclose that he has information that could only be obtained via complicity of the board owner, throwing suspicion and fear on the entire enterprise.

    Luckily, this is all pretend. The truth (little "t") is likely not as lurid, but we may never know.
  16. wsb

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    Perhaps this was one of those times to "say nothing at all" because I honestly don't understand the relevance of your post.

    Should everyone defer to individuals who purport to be privy to all sorts of inside information or should this be an open forum for discussion??? Should we only be privy to the information that they feel is suitable for our viewing or that accurately represents the providers in question???

    This isn't about any one particular provider. It is about the consummate conflict between those who wish to see a free flowing and open discussion and those who constantly wish to spin the discussion to protect providers who they favor or who have this constant need to engage in that same sort of faux chivalry that makes many of TBD's boards so unreadable.

    What providers never seem to realize is that this sort of thuggery is actually more detrimental to their businesses than any potentially negative or even false comments. The impression of being "in bed" with someone engaged in online spin/damage control clearly discourages many clients from seeing certain providers.

    --WSB
  17. Slinky Bender

    Slinky Bender The All Powerful Moderator

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    Since it seems like all we're doing now is "talking about talking", I am considering closing the thread. If anyone has any opposition, because there is more that needs to be said, let me know soon, please.
  18. badz

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    humble narrator,
    may i ask you how long have you been posting on the internet boards? many of us here know what went on, but many of us also know not to say anything at all. i had been a TOO active poster when i started out a year ago, but learned to do the opposite now (still type once in awhile but lurk most of the time), and i find it more fun this way!!!
  19. wsb

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  20. Humble Narrator

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    C'mon Oz!

    So how about some info, or is this sort of intel dispensed on a "need to know" basis? Perhaps we should just assume you know what's best for all of us and be content that you are our policeman.
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