Over-priced water, higher priced laps, cops and guns would rub any monger the wrong way. But try going before six (and no cover 'til seven) when cold Amstel's or Heinies are coming in at 3 bucks a pop (more effective attutude adjuster than H2O) and the girls are still allowed to do laps @ twenty. Based on Dooley's report and my own first visit luck here, I've been mining this place for hidden gems over half dozen daytime forays. It's a fifty/fifty prop in the back-hit with a young WOC Tues. Played a little nip 'n suck, then she got handy, and before you know it I lost it (and my finger). On way out she implied extra-curricular possiblities. But a couple other daytime fixtures have been strictly conventional. And no doubt about it, it's a rough hood and could take on a whole dif complexion after dark.