Cross-merchandising at its finest.

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  1. tomnyc31

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    Thanks Lamont! I truly appreciate the comments (most people in my office think I'm a neo-conservative, then again I work near Union Square), but i think you over-rated me :) I'm just a Joe not a Pro; your comments have more depth and I find myself concerned lately with matters of little importance in the grand scheme, such as Charlie Rangels car deal, very sweet it is.
  2. lamont5123

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    Tommyc31,

    Hey, whatever you do, please do not stop posting.

    You're an honest voice out here. We all need that.

    And you're a fair-minded debater.

    Yes, politics brings out the raw emotions. It's a rare man that can keep them in check.

    Rarer still, is the man who can look at an issue from both sides.

    That is where you come in.

    Keep us honest.
  3. justbill_redux

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    tom

    Start applauding but don’t attack the messenger and remember the Republicans control all 3 branches of the government and the Democrats are in essence powerless.

    http://utopiaguide.com/forums/showpost.php?p=517901&postcount=443

    http://utopiaguide.com/forums/showpost.php?p=536764&postcount=1
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  4. tomnyc31

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    lamont
    Thanks for an honest take, much appreciated, but I totally disagree. Justbill, I appreciate your postings, I jut hope that they would apply to either party where and when incompetence occurs; unfortunately your vision is limited strictly to attacking Bush. Post something about the Dems and I'll sincerely applaud you.

    Jras, lol, eloquently said, seems you attended a Howard Dean lecture on how to win friends and the presidency. Turn off msnbc /cnn , throw out the Times, erase those Hillary/Schummer talking point clips and hobby a bit moreJ

    No more political discussions for me on this forum, I can see what others can’t or refuse too, or the inverse may be true. In truth, I believe both parties are utter failures, most politicians and the media are incompetent, there is something seriously wrong when people enter politics to get rich, and even more dangerous, when they are not held accountable for their actions and the media plays along and presents its own agenda (latest example, the Deputy shooting in LA and the Baptist church fires, think about the common factor, hence not multiple day front page news. Rome is burning…but hobbying is still fun, most of the time.
  5. jras

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    this message is brought to you by Clarence

    tomnyc31-
    you dumb cunt shut the fuck up you cum slurpin turd-burglaring bitch
  6. smileee

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    OMG, Sharptongue lives in NJ. How lucky can we get? Can we deport him to NY?
  7. lamont5123

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    JustBill,

    On point.

    Despite his world wide popularity and high approval ratings, President Clinton and his wife endured an incessant drumbeat of criticism and threats.

    And most of these came from the crowd supports the man we now have in the White House.

    George W. Bush has nowhere near the admiration or public support Clinton enjoyed, but no one on the Left has suggested murdering him.

    While Clinton was in office, every week there was a curse-filled, juvenile worded rant of rage against him either on news forums or right wing talk shows.

    Democrats don't threaten others who have a different opinion or tell them to leave the country.

    But Bush's supporters often do.
  8. justbill_redux

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    And a related story

    Supreme Court justices keep many opinions private but Sandra Day O’Connor no longer faces that obligation. Yesterday, the retired justice criticized Republicans who criticized the courts. She said they challenge the independence of judges and the freedoms of all Americans. O’Connor’s speech at Georgetown University was not available for broadcast but NPR’s legal affairs correspondent Nina Totenberg was there

    Nina Totenberg: In an unusually forceful and forthright speech, O’Connor said that attacks on the judiciary by some Republican leaders pose a direct threat to our constitutional freedoms. O’Connor began by conceding that courts do have the power to make presidents or the Congress or governors, as she put it “really, really angry.” But, she continued, if we don’t make them mad some of the time we probably aren’t doing our jobs as judges, and our effectiveness, she said, is premised on the notion that we won’t be subject to retaliation for our judicial acts. The nation’s founders wrote repeatedly, she said, that without an independent judiciary to protect individual rights from the other branches of government those rights and privileges would amount to nothing. But, said O’Connor, as the founding fathers knew statutes and constitutions don’t protect judicial independence, people do.

    And then she took aim at former House GOP leader Tom DeLay. She didn’t name him, but she quoted his attacks on the courts at a meeting of the conservative Christian group Justice Sunday last year when DeLay took out after the courts for rulings on abortions, prayer and the Terri Schiavo case. This, said O’Connor, was after the federal courts had applied Congress’ onetime only statute about Schiavo as it was written. Not, said O’Connor, as the congressman might have wished it were written. This response to this flagrant display of judicial restraint, said O’Connor, her voice dripping with sarcasm, was that the congressman blasted the courts.

    It gets worse, she said, noting that death threats against judges are increasing. It doesn’t help, she said, when a high-profile senator suggests there may be a connection between violence against judges and decisions that the senator disagrees with. She didn’t name him, but it was Texas senator John Cornyn who made that statement, after a Georgia judge was murdered in the courtroom and the family of a federal judge in Illinois murdered in the judge’s home. O’Connor observed that there have been a lot of suggestions lately for so-called judicial reforms, recommendations for the massive impeachment of judges, stripping the courts of jurisdiction and cutting judicial budgets to punish offending judges. Any of these might be debatable, she said, as long as they are not retaliation for decisions that political leaders disagree with.

    I, said O’Connor, am against judicial reforms driven by nakedly partisan reasoning. Pointing to the experiences of developing countries and former communist countries where interference with an independent judiciary has allowed dictatorship to flourish, O’Connor said we must be ever-vigilant against those who would strongarm the judiciary into adopting their preferred policies. It takes a lot of degeneration before a country falls into dictatorship, she said, but we should avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings.
  9. justbill_redux

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    Actually thats the hallmark of the Bush administration, maybe you heard lately that their going after the reporters that admisitration whistleblowers talk to.
  10. lamont5123

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    Tom,

    I do believe that Justbill is joking.

    Vemeer does the same to get a rise of various ones.

    The DNC generally does not believe in censorship or telling anyone to shut-up if they have a different opinion.

    In my years of experience on news forums, this comes from the Bush crowd with their threats, insults and cries of traitor.
  11. tomnyc31

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    Another advocate of free speech only applies to me; pretty much sums up the DNC.
  12. DaveNJ

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    http://www.ulc.org/

    "You can become a legally ordained minister, instantly, online, at this website. The Universal Life Church is totally non-denominational, interfaith and welcomes all religions. After you fill out the ordination form, you will receive a pop-up instant credential, which serves as your receipt of your ordination. Print it immediately. "

    Good luck to you, brother RuffToy :D
  13. RuffToy

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    Anyone remember Tawana Brawley and that "Sharpton" fiasco. Interesting how the media covets him, when they should demonize him. Wherever a black man is victimized by a non-black man, there's Sharpton marching and protesting. Ever here anything from him when it's a black on black issue?

    That being said....I would vote for Sharpton over Hilary any day of the week. You think Al's a bad dude....well just watch what happens when Mrs. Incubus becomes pres....I'll be moving to Iraq.
  14. RuffToy

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    Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and possee make their money by shaking down corporations and threatening boycotts of their products. Sharpton lives in a large home in NJ in a white neighborhood. If being a reverend pays that kind of salary....where do I sign up.
  15. DaveNJ

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    I heard he spilled some olive oil on his head as a kid and just sort of went with it :D
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  16. snooozi3

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    The way he gets around he must get a lot, a lot more than a little more! Amazing how liars and cheats are loved and respected by so many. What seminary did he graduate from or is he self ordained?
  17. lamont5123

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    Sharpton is a Reverend at large. He is affiliated with the House of the Lord tabernacle in Brooklyn N.Y.

    It's a pretty big church. Rev. Herbert Daughtry is the pastor there.

    Normally, when reverends go from church to church, the faithful dig into their pockets to cover traveling and incidental expenses.

    Sharpton may get a little more due to his prominence and stature in the Black community.
  18. smileee

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    Affiliated with... is he ever there? He's always hitting the road and who knows what else.
  19. justbill_redux

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    When I want your opinion I'll beat it out of you otherwise shut the fuck up.
  20. lamont5123

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    Sharpton is a Reverend at large and is also director of the Youth Action Alliance.

    He is affiliated with a rather large congregation in Brooklyn.