Energy Drinks

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Kimmie, May 17, 2006.

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  1. girlygirl

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    ask your doctor


    you need to ask your doctor who prescribed the meds, it depends on exactly why you were prescibed that particular med, your med history & which energy drink you want & what is in it, no one can really give an accurate statement except your doctor.
  2. Kimmie

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    Its been a while since I posted here.

    I beat my energy drink habit, but slipped this Wednesday with a can of Monster green.

    I couldn't finish it so I dumped it in the hotel sink... that shit isnt clear..its as brown as poop!!!

    Screw that. I wont be putting that crap down my throat anymore!!!
  3. Kimmie

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    My bad.

    The Brits in my family have been conversing with me a lot lately and my childhood accent and phrases have seemed to slip back as well.

    It's like saying , "I hate those fuckin' Red sox" but in a nicer fashion.
  4. Wandering Bull

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    HELLO!!! Thats bloody New Jersey.[/QUOTE]


    You know -- maybe it's better there isn't one near you! lol.
  5. daengman

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    On the subject of Energy Drinks, does anyone else have any experience with using them in conjunction with ED meds.

    I am now well into my 60's and still rarely need to use ED meds. I usually only take them when I think that I want to or need to have more than one pop within an hour or two. So as a person whose career has largely been involved in science, I still have a lot of curiosity and willing to experiment once in a while and have been researching ways to make ED meds more effective at the same dose.

    In my experience, some of the energy drinks do actually boost the effectiveness of the ED mds. The boost is usually not a large one, but even a small boost can make a difference. I've tried perhaps 6 0r 7 different drinks, and the one that works best is Sun Tsu.

    If you decide to try them, keep in mind that as everything in this arena, YMMV.
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  6. Kimmie

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    That Target was built not even 6 months ago, plus I dont live near Monroe. NEXT!

    I dont even know what a central valley is.... ok?

    Sloats freakin burgh is Rockland County.NEXT!


    Not even cops go to Newburgh....ok?

    HELLO??? Thats bloody Rockland County!!!

    HELLO!!! Thats bloody New Jersey.
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  7. Wandering Bull

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    Orange County Starbucks...

    1st -- I agree - cut the sugar - cut the weight - worked for me.

    2nd -- NO Starbucks in OC? Not as long as I live there!

    Target Monroe T-2024
    128 Bailey Farm Rd
    Monroe NY, ***26
    United States

    2. Central Valley/Woodbury Commons
    400 Evergreen Ct
    Central Valley NY, ***17
    United States

    3. Sloatsburg Travel Plaza
    MM-33 N
    Sloatsburg NY, ***74
    United States

    4. Target Newburgh T-2076
    50 SR Rte 17K
    Newburgh NY, 12550
    United States

    ( south of orange cty )

    5. Suffern/Airmont
    215 Route 59
    Airmont NY, ***01
    United States

    6. Ramsey
    8 West Main Street
    Ramsey NJ, 07446
    United States
  8. Sidekicks

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    Try Vitamin water. Love that stuff!
  9. hunter69

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    I wish ther were still putting ephedra in stuff. Too musch caffeine makes me grind my teethe and get a headache, but old ephedra energy pills or drinks, I think snapple made one, really did the trick for me. Damn ball players abusing the stuff.
  10. mamaman

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    Try Liquid Ice, its not everywhere yet but tastes much better than red bull. Color is like a cosmo (light blue) nad mixes well with many liquors, but best with a shot of pravda.
  11. genius

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    NoDoz is just the same caffeine that is in the drinks w/o the water.
    Just an observation: You are taking loads of caffeine (energy drinks and the like) to wake up and meds to sleep because of insomnia. Eliminate the caffeine (maybe at the beginning of the day is ok because your body has time to metabolize the caffeine - however some people take a lot longer as per recent article in NYT) and you may find you need less meds for insomnia.
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  12. Kimmie

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    I only drown myself in coffee after a night of hanging out. And since I am a good girl now, I dont touch that crap. Plus Orange County NY doesnt have a Starbucks...

    The last think I need is no Doz. I take meds to help me sleep because of my serious insomnia, I cant add another pill or I will be officially called a pill popper..

    I dont see why some are so against these drinks. I still drink my water, but damn the drinks give you an amazing feeling when its 1pm and you just woke up and have to drag your ass to your car, when all you want to do is sleep until...6pm
  13. Kimmie

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    Tab is new to me, but a client told me it was a drink a few decades ago? ( before MY time :O) )

    It's good though. I brought a case load today. It doesnt give me as much of an energy boost as Monster or Full Throttle, but it only has 5 calories, and no carbs.

    Plus the bottle is a cute pink color!
  14. Kimmie

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    Ohhhh kimmie dont play that anymore.

    I dont mind CIM, but the only thing I swallow is my own spit..oh and water...and Energy drinks..

    I stopped that when I got involved with some dude for a few months last year, and stayed true to him...What a waste of time that was..

    But I stuck with it afterwards. It seems to be cool with my clients. As long as I lick it, suck it and slam it, they dont mind that the ending has changed.
  15. Ozzy

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    absolutely... for those with a sweet tooth this is essential in losing weight. I stopped drinking sugar drinks and loaded up on diet snapples and crystle light years ago when I dropped weight. Now there's a much wider variety of diet drinks and with the invention of "splenda" they taste even better now. Just do the math if you're drinking even two cokes a day and see how it adds up. I even stopped drinking jack n coke as a result.
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  16. Ozzy

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    And adding alcohol to any energy drink is dangerous. I'm fairly certain in NYS it is now illegal for bars to serve you a mixture of alcohol and Red Bull or whatever (it was a version of a screwdriver). It's tantamount to a poor mans speed-ball and people were stroking out and having heart attacks.
  17. Ozzy

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    Almost every brand of energy drink now makes a sugar free diet version so sugar content is no longer an issue. Monster is a good one with many good flavors. Rock Star brand.... the one whos logo is "party like a Rock Star" makes a berry flavor that is really good.

    Personally I find very little effects of drinking them. I'll drink one on the golf course rather than a beer cause like a gatorade it tends to quench thirst but I find no added energy... But I'm someone who can drink twenty espressos and not bounce off the walls.


    I think the crap in the Red Bulls and some others that tastes like shit is the taurine. Its an amino acid found in plants.

    http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/fulltext/taurine3-2.html


    Therapeutic Applications of Taurine

    by Timothy C. Birdsall, ND



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    Abstract

    Taurine is a conditionally-essential amino acid which is not utilized in protein synthesis, but rather is found free or in simple peptides. Taurine has been shown to be essential in certain aspects of mammalian development, and in vitro studies in various species have demonstrated that low levels of taurine are associated with various pathological lesions, including cardiomyopathy, retinal degeneration, and growth retardation, especially if deficiency occurs during development. Metabolic actions of taurine include: bile acid conjugation, detoxification, membrane stabilization, osmoregulation, and modulation of cellular calcium levels. Clinically, taurine has been used with varying degrees of success in the treatment of a wide variety of conditions, including: cardiovascular diseases, hypercholesterolemia, epilepsy and other seizure disorders, macular degeneration, Alzheimer's disease, hepatic disorders, alcoholism, and cystic fibrosis. (Alt Med Rev 1998;3(2):128-136)



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    Introduction

    Taurine (2-aminoethanesulfonic acid, see Figure 1) is a conditionally-essential amino acid which is not utilized in protein synthesis, but rather is found free or in simple peptides. First discovered as a component of ox bile in 1827, it was not until 1975 that the significance of taurine in human nutrition was identified, when it was discovered that formula-fed, pre-term infants were not able to sustain normal plasma or urinary taurine levels.1 Signs of taurine deficiency have also been detected in children on long-term, total parenteral nutrition,2 and in patients with "blind-loop" syndrome.3 In vivo studies in various species have shown taurine to be essential in certain aspects of mammalian development, and have demonstrated that low levels of taurine are associated with various pathological lesions, including cardiomyopathy, retinal degeneration, and growth retardation, especially if deficiency occurs during development.4

    Derived from methionine and cysteine metabolism, taurine is known to play an important role in numerous physiological functions. While conjugation of bile acids is perhaps its best-known function, this accounts for only a small proportion of the total body pool of taurine in humans. Other metabolic actions of taurine include: detoxification, membrane stabilization, osmoregulation, and modulation of cellular calcium levels. Clinically, taurine has been used in the treatment of a wide variety of conditions, including: cardiovascular diseases, epilepsy and other seizure disorders, macular degeneration, Alzheimer's disease, hepatic disorders, and cystic fibrosis. An analog of taurine, acamprosate, has been used as a treatment for alcoholism.



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    Biochemistry and Metabolism

    Although frequently referred to as an amino acid, it should be noted that the taurine molecule contains a sulfonic acid group, rather than the carboxylic acid moiety found in other amino acids. Unlike true amino acids, taurine is not incorporated into proteins, and is one of the most abundant free amino acids in many tissues, including skeletal and cardiac muscle, and the brain.5

    In the body, taurine is synthesized from the essential amino acid methionine and its related non-essential amino acid cysteine (see Figure 2). There are three known pathways for the synthesis of taurine from cysteine. All three pathways require pyridoxal-5'-phosphate (P5P), the active coenzyme form of vitamin B6, as a cofactor. A vitamin B6 deficiency has been shown to impair taurine synthesis.6

    The activity of cysteine sulfinic acid decarboxylase (CSAD), the enzyme which converts both cysteine sulfinic acid into hypotaurine, and cysteic acid into taurine, is thought to reflect the capacity for taurine synthesis.7 Compared to other mammals, humans have relatively low CSAD activity, and therefore possibly lower capacity for taurine synthesis.8 Much of the published research on taurine has involved studies done on cats, which do not synthesize taurine, but must consume it in their diet.5 Therefore, since humans have the capacity to synthesize at least some taurine, it is unclear to what extent feline studies can be extrapolated to humans.

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  18. genius

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    It's not really genius to load up a drink with caffeine. The original 1886 recipe for Coca-Cola had cocaine and was replaced with caffeine when it became illegal.
    The thing in sports drinks that gets you "the day to keep me going" is the caffeine and maybe a sugar high.

    You might as well take a caffeine pill (NoDoz is one) and a couple of teaspoons of sugar and you can possibly save some money (semi-joking). If you want to save on the sugar calories just take the caffeine pill. Also a sugar high stimulates your appetite (when the blood sugar drops because of insulin production).

    Starbucks has very high levels of caffeine in their coffee - multiples of regular coffee. I used to stop on the way to work and read my paper and drink some coffee but had to stop that as I became a raving lunatic when I got to work (it was getting too expensive to replace employees). If I go there now I tell them to mix half-caff/half decaf.

    Caffeine is a proven performance booster (mental and physical) and other than the stuff being mildly addictive (I suffered a couple of days of headaches and was dragging my ass a bit when I stopped Starbucks) there aren't many bad side effects (amounts within reason).
  19. MetroJay1

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    Does Tab eneryy taste different than regular tab? Just curious.
  20. darryl

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    Do u think it's better than Redline? I take that b4 the gym (now that my supply of original Stacker 3 ran out). Only problem is, the Redline taste isn't much better than RedBull.