Discussion in 'New York' started by JIMYDR, Feb 23, 2003.
Wow, I think I Kimmied a thread.
nice of u to . . .
post all that. but i understood all that from yr previous posts (i am a woman after all). but, perhaps, I ought to be more explicit.
i understand u to be someone who has the possibility of avoiding the quagmire of a lifetime of hobbying and the concommitant (sp?) guilt and duplicity. u are obviously young enough (and i am well aware of yr age) to hope for a satisfying and faithful relationship without the compromises that so many here make (and subsequently excoriate themselves for). nb: that is not to say it is not possible to hobby without guilt, it is. but lying ought produce guilt in anyone healthier than yr garden-variety sociopath.
i applaud u. i am telling u it is possible. it is a failure to cheat. it is more of a failure to cheat continually.* it is an extreme failure to lie to oneself and say that this isn't cheating. re: the age question. it is my opinion that too many men here are trying to fend off the ultimate with excursions into youth. however momentarily palliative such excursions may be, i believe the backlash to be greater. i love kids. i love people in their teens and twenties. i celebrate that time in their lives. however, as physically attractive as youth is, i find aging sublime (in many respects).
blah blah blah . . . not well written, but i'm in a hurry, i'm doing a concordance on the edomites.
red and read,
*extenuating circumstances notwithstanding. see e.g. mr. rochester, jane eyre. c.f. wide sargasso sea.
Stupid boring explanation of what I meant
I said that I would consider myself a failure if I ever had sex with someone 20 years younger than myself.
If I am (legally, and as far as I am concerned ethically) having sex with someone 20 years my junior, I must be at least 38. However, I consider marriage to be an integral part of my (not necessarily anyone else's) success. Moreover, I dogmatically believe that the differences in experience precludes someone from having a relationship of equality (not necessarily symetry) with someone two decades younger. Presumably, then, if I am to be married, it will be to someone within 20 years (more likely much less) of my age. Now, while I have no deadline for being married, I would like to have children and so it seems like it would be a good idea to be married sometime before I am 38 (I have no desire to have college age children into my retirement). Finally, if I am indeed married, I would consider it a tremendous failure on my part if I were sexually unfaithful (I have already identified fidelity as one of the biggest issues to contend with for my relationship success). So, while I can think of a few possibilities that allow for it, the tremendous probablity is that if I ever have sex with someone 20 years my junior, I would have failed at at least one major ambition for myself.
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are not. i am merely agreeing with u. it would be something of a failure to be consumed with fucking the next generation (or the next next in some cases.) that's not to say, it ought NEVER happen. the question is always the same: WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING?
how did i get here?
How am I obsessing over youth?
just just just you . . .
it certainly is a failure to obssess over youth (yours or someone else's). it takes consummate bravery to live the examined life (hombre stuns me every day -- double entendre duly noted). with any luck you'll have the courage to live the life you want, not the life you feel you have to.
the little engine,
Anyway, just to be clear, I certainly have no problem having sex with younger women.
(This weekend, I was chatting up this 21 year old girl at the ass end (7 am) of a party that went on too long, alternatively wondering if I should be bothering with someone that will undoubtedly lack the maturity for a real relationship and imagining just how much fun it would be to fuck the hell out of her.)
((Regardless, I was having more fun than I'd had in a while. Maybe I should study the works of HNS a little closer))
Don't have enough money left after I finish buying my toupees.
Maybe you should be looking into the costs of viagra as well.
I'd be willing to do that, but I'm afraid the viagra costs would offset any real profits. Lube is a helluva lot cheaper.
Re: F Stop
What they are is just a bunch of mongers while waiting for their favorite girl chatting about places they been to and things like that. passing the girls around from monger to monger. Getting the scope on who is hot and who is not. A few weeks ago a guy wanted a dancer but she was talking to someone. I know her so I wispered in her hear this guy wants you. She was only saying hello so she moved to on to that guy. Some of the girls sit with me and know that if someone comes up to us, if I am not getting a lapdance that I am not offended if she moves on to him.
Re: F Stop
F/Stop is a club which has an ad here on UG. Look for the banner.
What are these FStop gatherings that ppl are talking about? How does one get invited?
I am kidding with you.
I was a failure 100 times in 2002 sometimes twice a day!
I was a tremendous failure last night.
JimmyDR - I'd never presume to call you a loser. What works for me certainly isn't guaranteed to work for you.
I can only speak as to how I'd view myself.
Then I am a loser!!!!!!!! So when you are 55 and banging 45 year olds, some might consider you a loser?
I will not consider myself a failure if I'd like to have sex with someone 20 years younger than myself.
Just if I do it.
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