Flushing KTVs / Hostess Bars

Discussion in 'North East' started by mrtaiwan, Jun 28, 2010.

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  1. lamps

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    I am asian, and it is a sense of self-protection... it's like you won't give your home address to a stranger... Epecially in the US, all kind of crazy things can be happened... news like a person for killed for a quarter, an old lady(forgot how old.. may be 70+) was raped in a church..... most asian who worked in a restaurant immigrated to tje US.. imagine if you were in a foreign country, I dun think you would give out your person numbers to strangers easily

    numbers are only given usually if you can be trusted such as you are her friend's friends.. unless the girls are either too innocent or open minded
  2. paperpusher

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    Mr. Taiwan is actually right about the restaurants being a great source of dates. But what you posted above is a terrible place to get a chinese girl friend if that is your intention. Better places besides restaurants are the Flushing library, Starbucks, and food markets. Being a gweilo you have the instant pick up line asking someone about the various strange foods that are there. There are underground restaurants off Main Street, where it is easy to see groups of young woman eating by themselves and you can ask them what it is. Instant conversation. And you will know in three minutes from their body language whether they are interested or not. You can tell them, you will pay if they let you try something different. Since all the items are like $4, not much of an investment.
  3. paperpusher

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    Lamps this is much easier than you think. A good percent of chinese woman are no nonsense types (meaning they do not play "hard to get") and they are counting on men to ask them out. Same thing with hair salons. In the matter-of-fact, you can watch the girls groom themselves in the morning just for that purpose.
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  4. paperpusher

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    No they will not not give you a phone number (love those double negative sentances.). But sometimes you find out, it is not theirs. LOL My ABC friends at Asian social functions told me this was common.
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  5. lamps

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    I know MrTaiwan... but it is a bit strange to pick girls up like that.. have u gotten one by that? hook me up bro hahah
  6. mrtaiwan

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    There's plenty of cute girls working in restaurants in Flushing. Unless she's married it's rare that you would get rejected asking for her phone #.
  7. lamps

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    I went to couple of those clubs... all I knew is that the girls are trying to make u spend... although chicks are better looking .. make up or dark .. who knows lol.. anyway.. I once tried to get a girl (just dinner or hang out)... at least $100-500 besides the cost of meals or anything... may just go straight for AMP or Escort better..
  8. mrtaiwan

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    So I went a second time with my friends and this time we stayed for 4+ hours. Our bill was $370 + maybe another $100 in tips. The girls were drinking a lot of some nasty plum wine ($20/bottle) from Korea.

    Parts of the evening were good, even great, but I wasn't entirely satisfied because some of the girls were just too aggressive in asking for the plum wine. Like anything, getting what you want takes work. I don't need the girl to drink that plum wine, and I would rather play and tip her well than watch her drink. But that doesn't seem to be the Asian customers' M.O.

    I talked at greater length with the owner and I told her about needing Prix Fixe and a bilingual ordering menu for the guys who can't speak Korean or Chinese. It should happen but it's a work in progress and hopefully will get done this summer. Their business is really busy so I don't have much leverage. When I have clarity, I'll provide it.

    P.S. One of the girls was really young, like 22 or 23 max. Her face was flawless. The owner said there's another girl that's even younger. If any of you want to stroll along Northern Blvd, both sides of the street [and the side streets], near the orange supermarket, you might find even better shops. Just don't go for a private room on your first visit, and only stay at a place with booths so that the girls have to sit next to you.
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  9. popeye

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    Your esteem in my opinion knows no bounds. You asked once how we could meet so I may buy you that drink, well my friend you have stumbled on to something very enticing. If you need a wingman, count me in.

    I must maintain my anonymity in real life, we will figure out something. This is extremely promising.

    Regards,

    Pops
  10. paperpusher

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    As usual, great post.
  11. mrtaiwan

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    One of my accountants is a Taiwanese guy. He had been telling me for some time that he knew another Taiwanese man that I should talk with, professionally, and I said sure, set it up.

    We set it up for last night. I asked him where we were going [in Flushing] but he told me he didn't really know the addresses or business names, so I said no problem, pick me up and we'll all go together.

    The first place we went was on Northern Blvd, just north of Union Street. I've driven by there many times but never paid it much attention. There's a narrow alley and parking lot in the back, and we had the pleasure of entering through the kitchen. The girls are Korean/Chinese, meaning they speak both languages and have family roots in NE China or South Korea.

    I've been to many similar places in Asia, but never really liked them much because of the smoking. Well, thanks to Mayor Bloomberg, there's absolutely no smoking in the KTVs here! I was 95% sure that I knew the mamasan there from somewhere else, perhaps a KMP in another state in a prior era.

    So let's cut to the chase. The girls are great to look at, no question. There are some really sexy girls there. But only about 1/5 can carry on a conversation, and by now I'm pretty good at it. The girls drink with you and ask you to buy a fruit platter. The bill was $138 about an hour later, and I think my friend tipped another $40. I didn't really feel it was value because the girls were mostly on the other side of the bar, but there was one tall girl that was really hot to look at and cordial to talk with. The music was also a bit too loud. Sometimes it's good to remember just how good they can look under the right circumstances. That's surely a key reason we do this - there are a few out there who are absolutely stunning.

    The second place was much better. Again the girls were Chinese/Korean. Just off Northern Blvd, not far from the orange-colored supermarket, it looked inconspicuous from the street, but inside the place was hopping. We sat at a booth and I quickly learned this is the right seating decision. The girls need to sit in the booth with you; they're not across the bar. And the fun begins. Their goal is to get you to take a room downstairs. I later learned that a guest earlier that week ran up a bill of ~$1,500 by drinking three $450 bottles of something. So I would avoid that option. There were some hot looking young girls, but we talked at greater length with the manager and owner. I have a series of questions I ask and they passed all my tests. Then they started asking their own questions, and the owner got excited at how collectively smart we 3 guys were. The manager told me she had been forced to drink so much booze last night that she really couldn't drink booze with us tonight, and I said no problem, drink tea or whatever, and it was as if I had just touched down from the moon. I guess so many of the Asian guys just have their rituals and if the girl says she can't drink booze the guys get pissed off, whatever.

    The conversations and laughter waned and waxed, legs were touched, bodies were pressed together, men were sandwiched among women, pieces of fruit were tactfully placed in each other's mouths, etc. The music was not too loud - check. We talked about whether it was good for them to try to get white guys as customers, what the white guys' expectations were, etc. I think we need Prix Fixe options and I'm going to cultivate that idea. Those of you who know my prior writing are aware that my M.O. is that you always want to make good friends, because the ones you become friends with are your vector to their friends. And believe me, they all have friends that want to meet us.

    Eventually the owner asked for my phone # and I gave her my Google Voice #. Note: never give out your cell phone #. Get a Google Voice # or similar. Using my sales training techniques, I asked, what would she do IF I gave her my #? Eventually we established that with her schedule and lifestyle, she doesn't get to eat a lot of home-cooked meals, and I may get my cooking lady to come over and cook a nice meal for all of us.

    There were terrific hugs and groping at the end, and the bill was a mere $68 for ~1.5 hours of beer + fruit for the 3 of us. I think my friend tipped $30 and told me not to tip more. I'll follow up with another visit and report back. I think having a place like this as a coded UG destination with Prix Fixe options might provide the environment and collegiality some UGers are looking for. And there's absolutely the possibility for extracurriculars, but it will take some cultivation on your part.
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