You know, I asked nicely for guys to behave. But no, I can't get that. So now, we'll remove the problem. Not only am I closing this thread, BUT THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER DISCUSSSIONS OF ANY "GET TOGETHERS" ON THIS BOARD. PERIOD.. You want to email eachother privately, go ahead, but I don't want to see any references, etc. any where else. GOT IT ?????????