Group get together.....

Discussion in 'New York' started by JohnJ, May 11, 2001.

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  1. Slinky Bender

    Slinky Bender The All Powerful Moderator

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    You know, I asked nicely for guys to behave. But no, I can't get that. So now, we'll remove the problem. Not only am I closing this thread, BUT THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER DISCUSSSIONS OF ANY "GET TOGETHERS" ON THIS BOARD. PERIOD..

    You want to email eachother privately, go ahead, but I don't want to see any references, etc. any where else.

    GOT IT ?????????
  2. Ozzy

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    anytime MJ. my ass is waiting.




    [Edited by Ozzy on 07-27-2001 at 12:02 PM]
  3. MJC185

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    Newsflash for Ozzy!!!

    Your shit stinks too, pal.

    Ozzy, how did I know, without a doubt, that you would instantly turn to your pathetic macho, tough-guy, 'I am better than you', 'my shit don't stink' act? You're so predictible.

    But I will reply to you...

    First of all King shit, I am not learning disabled, thank you. I just live in reality, not Ozzy's world.

    Secondly, before you rant like an absolute jerkoff, think about who I was talking about as an uninvited guest. Think with your head, not your dickhead. I'm not talking about the blond girl who wandered over. I am talking about the quiet black woman who showed up with one of our lovely ladies. Maybe she was 'approved' or 'invited' but she is not a UG member like you so strongly insist on. So before you rant and rave like a psycho, stop to think of what you're responding to.

    AND FURTHERMORE, STOP FUCKING BELITTLING ME LIKE A HIGH SCHOOL BULLY OR YOU WILL FIND MY FUCKING FOOT LODGED UP YOUR HALLOWED ASS. I don't give a shit how much you pat yourself on the back for your past 'victories' on this board. I was not disrespectful to you in my post and i was not crude and vicious, apparantly you're not capable of conducting yourself like a human being, except when your'e paying for sex. But I guarantee you motherfucker, I have no fear of Ozzy and I will not go quietly into the night like people you have gone off on in the past. I have no business to lose here or prividers to black list me. You are nothing to me Ozzy . Your big wig influence on this board is nothing to me. Your bullying and attacks have gone on long enough and it's not even reasonable. Just because you've paid half the world for sex and posted about it does not automatically grant you immunity when you act like a complete asshole.

    All this 'mission: impossible' bullshit with set ups and all the rest of the garbage is so amusing. Maybe you can write a screenplay one day. It could be the 'Godfather' or 'Goodfellas' of the escort movie genre.

    To the people I have met and can conduct themselves like adults:
    John J, Tank, Royal, Nash, Mij, NeverSoft, Fishfry, Wimpy, Carl, B2C...etc etc.
    Please, feel free to write to me anytime any of you would like to meet for a drink or for another trip to Episodes or just ot chat. I went to the G2G's to meet good people and to broaden myself in this hobby and i feel I have more than done that. This covert, secret ops stufff has obviously tainted the g2g beyond repair.

    MJC

    [Edited by MJC185 on 07-27-2001 at 12:00 PM]
  4. Carl M

    Carl M Hanging by a thread

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    Unequivocally NO Ozwald!

    You are correct AY was not invited, some people were actually afraid of her showing up so they did not attend. I also did not appreciate walking guard duty in the parking lot to see if peoples tires were slashed! You know my Doc says Im suppose to stay free of stress, this is not helping me any fellows- Im giving serious thought to cancelling the next UG party also! JJ if you need I got a handful of Prevacid in my pocket- email me bro!!

    [Edited by Carl M on 07-27-2001 at 11:59 AM]
  5. Ozzy

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    Why don;t we call it the JohnJ g2g and allow him to invite whoever he damn well pleases and leave it at that?


    that JUST MY POINT...john did not invite guy catelli.


    and carl m did not invite alyssa young...

    but don't take my word...ASK THEM!



    [Edited by Ozzy on 07-27-2001 at 11:43 AM]
  6. Ozzy

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    let me explain for the learning disabled...

    "contradictory statements" what the fuck are you talking about.......YES... UG G2G's ARE for members only...thats why theres an invite list...look that word up in the dictionary before you post another word. however you can speak to anyone you want in a bar..I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. stop putting words in my fucking mouth...you look like an idiot by saying that.



    "FAIRY TALE hypothetical situations that have not and probably will not ever happen??? "

    what are you stupid or just can't read?

    they did happen already.

    [Edited by Ozzy on 07-27-2001 at 11:42 AM]
  7. MJC185

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    WTF ????

    OK, time for me to chime in here and state my dismay.

    Ozzy, what the hell are you talking about??? The last g2g was small, pleasant and issue-free (as were the first 3). Why are we getting all f*cking crazy about these FAIRY TALE hypothetical situations that have not and probably will not ever happen???

    I go to a g2g knowing what 'type' of people will be there because I associate with them on a message board. You get an idea of their personality. And I go into a g2g knowing that there is always the chance for uninvited guests or assholes. It comes with the territory of having a PARTY or public gathering if you will. If you are so paranoid about so-and-so person and such-and-such situation then it is well within your rights and reason not to go. Why does each friggin g2g have to turn into this high stress, high pressure event for guys like John and Carl? PISSES ME OFF.

    Lastly Ozzy, I will point out some contradictory statements. You wrote:
    "#5 as for bringing non invited guest to the UG meeting...IT'S CALLED A UG G2G for a reason...that means UG members only. especially when you consider how discrete this hobby is to some...i don't think anyone wants uninvited guest showing up. as for why i showed up at the last meeting....i'm not concerned about anyone beating ME up, i went there for someone else who asked me to attend.

    #6 i never told JJ what to do, i offered advice. it's his list and his party. "

    In #5 you state, unequivocally, what these UG g2g's are supposed to be. "UG members only" Why? Are you the person who gave birth to this idea, therefore you know what they should and shouldn't be? regardless, you go on in # 6 to say that you never told John what to do and it is his party.

    And lastly...There was a non-UG memebr at the last NYC g2g. She was a lovely lady and nice to talk to, even though I only spoke with her for a minute. I did not see you take exception to that or go after the person who brought her for breaking the rules. Or did I miss something here?

    I'm not trying to be a dick or draw a goddamn line in the sand here. I am just really put off by all the BULLSHIT that goes on with these g2g's. It doesn't need to be that way. I think John did a bang-up job, but I know how friggin stressed he got. Why don;t we call it the JohnJ g2g and allow him to invite whoever he damn well pleases and leave it at that? Go if you want or stay home if you have 50,000 issues.

    MJC
    simply frustrated

    [Edited by MJC185 on 07-27-2001 at 10:39 AM]
  8. Ozzy

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    oh...and i've mentioned this before...

    guy has been banned from other boards. jag (twice, under two different names) and he was suspended from UG once before the ban and from tbd at least once.

    just like when you equated me bringing gabriela (who was an invited UG member) to the first G2G to you bringing Guy C....


    your right you don't know the facts.

    [Edited by Ozzy on 07-27-2001 at 09:46 AM]
  9. Ozzy

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    #1 i never said WHO the trouble makers were.....

    someone has a guilty conscience.


    #2 Guy catelli did the exact same thing on UG as TBD...but maybe it's better for the APM to tell you exactly why he got banned, since it was the APM who banned him...but trust me...he broke plenty of rules to get the APM to toss him since slinky is very liberal and doesn't toss anyone that quickly.

    but just real quick...he claimed over and over and in a campaign like style....that EZ drugged, raped and beat a provider(after she admitted that EZ did nothing wrong). then he tried to out another poster on the board. then he spread rumors of IV drug use by a provider......all this with NO proof whats o ever. thats NOTHTHING?

    now had that been me he said that about and i walked into that meeting...i'd have painted the walls with him. also i don't think it's too comfortable of a situation for the APM to walk into a bar and see a guy that he just kicked off his board. i'm not saying GC is a violent person.....but then again i and none of you know him well enough to know if he's the revengeful type.

    #3 i never threatened any physical harm to anyone...NOT AY, NOT ANYONE. besides i don't hit girls.

    #4 the ONLY mention of anything physical came from you guys with your mentions of stabbing and shooting people.

    #5 as for bringing non invited guest to the UG meeting...IT'S CALLED A UG G2G for a reason...that means UG members only. especially when you consider how discrete this hobby is to some...i don't think anyone wants uninvited guest showing up. as for why i showed up at the last meeting....i'm not concerned about anyone beating ME up, i went there for someone else who asked me to attend.

    #6 i never told JJ what to do, i offered advice. it's his list and his party.



    [Edited by Ozzy on 07-27-2001 at 09:35 AM]
  10. wimpy

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    Truely, unbelievable.

    Hey, I for one believe that the EZ/Guy thing is behind the two of them. And while we all have a person whom we will support it seems to be behind the two of them. Now, if either are plotting some type of secret revenge that's something else.

    To me it seems that the whole incident is behind EZ, but thats my opinion. While I don't need to speak for him, this issue has lived its useful life.

    JJ, brother I can feel your frustration and I would say I understand if you kick this G2G to the curb. Hey, if you want to get a drink e-mail me.

    Ozzy and Tank I met both of you and think both of you are good guys. Let's just put the differences away and get along.

    Wimpy

    [Edited by Wimpy on 07-27-2001 at 09:16 AM]
  11. Eye Won

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    You got to be kidding me

    I can't beleive what I just read. Nice Job..... Im so glad that due to one person having a problem with someone who isn't even a part of this f*cking board anymore has the ability to ruin a great thing.... Well I for one aint bailing out that easy. Carl will still have the Long Island get-togethers and I will attend. As far as the Nyc meetings. I will gladly at any time meet any of you for a drink. Just drop me an e-mail, Im not letting anyone ruin my fun. It aint happening....
    Imperialone........OUT
  12. Eye Won

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    More crap about this

    Tank.....
    You say this is starting to look stupid..... Think again my friend, this IS STUPID!!! As far as Guy and Ez being cool with each other, Tank....I think you better handle that question, cause I don't have the answer....
    Imperialone........OUT!!!!!!!!
  13. JohnJ

    JohnJ Repentant Sinner

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    red tape........

    Before this gets out of hand any further.........

    I valued the friendships I've made and stories we've shared but better to stop now than continue......


    For the time being, I'm withdrawing from putting together any more G2Gs....


    John J
  14. Bill Furniture

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    I heard that EZ and guy met and are cool with each other now.
  15. Tankcommander

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    What was lost in my last post was...

    One...Guy made trouble on TBD, not UG, yet he was banned from UG....

    Two... There was no rule about not bringing friends when I brought him. Plus, EZ had been trying to meet Guy for a long time... so I was informed.

    Three...the only person who has ever attended an UG gathering with the intention of physical action was Ozz, in the OZZ vs AY debacle.

    Four...I was not the only one who brought uninvited guests... I was the only one who brought a guest that you did not approve of.

    Five...Guy did what he did, EZ did what he did... they both accuse the other of being Liars. I really couldn't give a crap if either one, or both were the devil himself, but do you have any evidence that either one is right or wrong? I have none, so I treat each one equally. Funny thing is, he wasn't even banned from TBD. He had not been banned from any board other than UG for something not occuring on UG... Talk about Paranoid.

    Six... What is between EZ and Catelli is between EZ and Catelli. Let them fight their own battles. Of course, Guy can't fight his now that he's banned, but them are the breaks. Let's not accuse me of attacking EZ because I associate with Catelli.

    Oz, you're barking up the wrong tree. I'm one of the few here who have little motivation to be a "white knight" and am usually somewhat objective. I'm also one of the few guys who are willing and physically able to put force into the safety of these meetings. So, if safety is really your concern, I'm one of your better allies.

    JJ does a great job putting these things together so stop telling him what to do. I'm sure he won't tell you who to invite when you put together Ozzy's crew...

    Overall, this is beginning to look stupid. Do you want me scratched from the invite list? cause I'm sure that can be arranged.

    [Edited by Tankcommander on 07-27-2001 at 06:38 AM]
  16. Eye Won

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    This is unreal

    Ok, let me get this straight..
    So Ozzy isn't attending any more Ug Get- togethers because Guy showed up the one time. All of a sudden 2 get-togethers later it's a problem. I don't get it. If this was such a huge problem, why did you attend the second time. And Tank, your my buddy and a great freind, but you had to know that Ozzy was gonna slam you for saying he is being overbearing. That doesn't give him the right to call you a trouble maker, cause that wasn't your intention. I for one had no idea that Guy was accused of all these things and I think Tank was in the same boat. If this was such a huge problem then this should have been addressed when it happened. One more thing....Ozzy if you feel like there are troublemakers here looking to use these meetings for revenge...I have one thing to say about that...What the hell are you talking about...I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.....
    Imperialone..........OUT!!!!!!!!!
  17. Tankcommander

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    For the record

  18. Ozzy

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    anyone who brings a guest who was just banned from the board for fighting and posting rape and drug accusations as well as attempting to publically out other members who are attending such a meeting, has no clue and shouldn't comment on the safety of these meetings.


    for now on i'll stick to the private G2G's so i won't have to worry about who's setting someone up.

    JJ...
    you have trouble some makers on this board who can take advantage of these meetings to extract some revenge in person. ;)z

    [Edited by Ozzy on 07-26-2001 at 10:55 AM]
  19. Tankcommander

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    Oz, quit being so overbearing...

    JJ, you're doing a great job. Oz is just being is overbearing self.
  20. JohnJ

    JohnJ Repentant Sinner

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    Quality Control...

    ozzy...

    I'm not sure what you mean by quality control.... did someone show up that you disapproved of???

    I had an absolutely wonderful time... I thought the gang that showed up was great....!!!

    I'm not sure what you are getting at by saying that and perhaps emailing me privately would be best.

    As far as the G2G goes... it is not in any way a velvet roped gathering where only select few are entitled entrance. It’s simply a gathering of people... I send the invite to anyone who would like to come as long as one critical point is met... and that is that they are current active members of Utopia Guide.... That’s it.... no more no less.... if they are new... they will have to wait till they are better known on the boards... if they have been kicked out of UG then they will be scratched from the list…. If someone brings someone uninvited that person will not be invited again.

    So far you are the only person to state something like this to me. Did I not see something… did everyone else who went see something that I didn’t?????


    I’d love to know…

    John J
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