They always ask for the $40 for Hr HE but I offer $20 and don't ever go above $25. Part of my real job is negotiating and they know I am not bluffing when I say just keep massaging, maybe next time. Eventually they always give in because they know they just wasted an hour if they don't do the HE. They would rather get the $25 than the eventual $5 they know is coming if they don't. $40 is just ludicrous.