Imperialone Get's Busted

Discussion in 'New York' started by Eye Won, Mar 8, 2001.

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  1. jmcurry

    jmcurry The Insider

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    Little guy: Unless your car directly facilitates your involvement in an illegal activity, such as drug sales, or you are driving "under the influence", the authorities, constitutionally, do not have the right to confiscate your vehicle, without just compensation. The "takings clause" of the 5th Amendment insures American citizens their right to their property. I have always been curious as to how such property is impounded under any circumstances, since the Constitution itself does not separate criminal from legal behavior. It simply requires that "private property" cannot be "taken for public use, without just compensation." Nonetheless, cars are always impounded, with little or no attention paid to our Fifth and Fourteenth Amendment protections.
  2. guy catelli

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    Re: Civilian Friend?

    guerilla.
  3. Tankcommander

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    Civilian Friend?

    What are you? A cop? fed? military?
  4. Tankcommander

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    Security and Bodyguards are a different class of people

    After a short stint in executive protection, I have learned that these are a different class of people. They are usually non-judgemental, as they have to be in order to put their lives on the line for those who are as human as they are, and are subject to witnessing the pleasures of the flesh that their principals indulge in. These men and women are highly honorable, secretive and trustworthy. Their main concern is their duty to protect an individual. There is nothing personal in what they do, and they take no extra steps in causing pain or anguish.

    Police however, are usually a different story. Generally less educated and less intelligent, trainers have resorted to convincing them that they are part of some great crusade. And thus, you see the results
  5. hot4chicks

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    Personally, I'd arrive maybe 15 minutes early and cruise around to see if anything looks odd. Some communities see the seizure of cars etc as a way to enhance their budgets.

    Once I was going to an incall and noticed maby 4 plainclothes cops, including one woman, with radios. I waited to see if they were going to bust this incall. As I waited it became apparent there were more cops involved when 2 cars parked opposite the street and down the block. Then some dignitary with flags flying on his car shows up and they all escort him into a restaurant. Better safe than sorry.

    h4c, paranoia rules!
  6. guy catelli

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    good 'thinkin' like a lawyer', fletch ;).
  7. littleguy

    littleguy Gold

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    Funny you should say that SB, my thoughts exactly.

    I'm meeting a lady at a specific place who doesn't have a ride. I'm picking her up in my car. While she's been vouched for as real by sources I "know and trust" (at least as far as we can trust anyone on some of these sites) I have not seen her yet.

    I was considering doing exactly that. Parking and meeting her on foot, although we would still have to ride to the motel, so, if something were fishy, I probably wouldn't know it until we were at least inside the car anyway. Which brings me I guess to the next part. Normally, if she gets in and allows you to drive away without yet discussing anything, is that a "sure" sign she's OK. After all, it's basic procedure apparently that LE will NOT let their decoys even get in the car.

    BTW, this is also NJ I'm speaking about and I do not know their "confiscation" rules anyway.
  8. Slinky Bender

    Slinky Bender The All Powerful Moderator

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    Well, actually, that is correct. They can't confiscate your car if you do that. If you are planning to go to a local hotel anyway, you may be better off cruising some og the areas ( like lex/28th ) on foot to avoid having your car seized.
  9. fletch

    fletch Voice of Reason

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    By that logic, you would do better to park, get out of your car, proposition the girl and fuck her right on the sidewalk. :p
  10. Slinky Bender

    Slinky Bender The All Powerful Moderator

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    In NYC, yes.

    The confiscation isn't the "punishment". It's based on the same principal that they use to confiscate a $2 Million boat because they find one MJ seed on board. It's under "equipment used in the commision of". They're trying to act as if you "used" the car to commit the crime, and therefore it's fair game.

    HE: "Hey, baby, come give me a BJ, I've got a Ferrari".

    SHE: "Sure. That will be $50".

    See how that works ? He used the Ferrari to get the BJ ( yeah, right ).
  11. littleguy

    littleguy Gold

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    Re-awakening this subject for a little bit, I understand that a vehicle involed in a DUI incident is at risk (or is it a done deal ?) for confiscation, but that is, I believe, a misdemeanor or a felony, depending on the number of times ro some other circumstances.

    Does trying to pick up a street lady, which supposedly is little more than a jaywalking offense/slap on the wrist, also put your vehicle at risk.

    Also, since we know there is at least one lawyer out there, can somebody tell me how the law figures conficating a $70,000 Mercedes and a $500 20-year old Chevy is equal punishment for the same offense ?
  12. littleguy

    littleguy Gold

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    Actually I don't know why I watched for so long.

    I got a sickening feeling sitting there watching helpless hobbyists get snared.

    Kind of a morbid curiosity I guess. Kind of like rubbernecking at a car accident byt the side of the road.
  13. jester

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    Better than TV, isn't it?

    Years ago (pre-Rudy), after working the 4-12 shift downtown, I would drop a co-worker off at the bus terminal, then go home. I often drove around 46-48th Streets looking at the scenery. There were almost always a dozen or more girls around, with the line of cars stretching around the block. The girls were often very aggressive, and once I had a girl (who was obviously high on something) try to climb in my car window. I actually had to fight her off, then a unmarked police car pulled up, and two plainclothes got out and grabbed her. They tried to browbeat me into pressing charges, but I just wanted to get away from there.

    The interesting thing was that while this was going on "business" was still being conducted 20 feet away.

    How times change.


    Jester
  14. littleguy

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    Late last summer, reading some reviews and not normally a "street action" kind of guy I decided to try around 28th and Lex.

    I came down Lex and made a left onto 28th. Right at the corner were 3 pretty good looking ladies, all apparently on the prowl. I turned the corner and slowed down a bit and one of them headed towards my car. Something didn't quite smell right, so I slowly accelerated away.

    I decided to go around, west on 27th to Park, right on Park to Lex, then parked on the Northwest corner of 28th adn Lex to watch.

    I believe it was TC above that said "Sloppy seconds mean safe seconds". Boy, was he right.

    Across 28 St from me were 4 guys sitting in their car just hanging out. Katty-corner from me were the girls trying to flag down customers. Across Lex from me were a guy and a girl hanging out on a stoop and some workers at the corner store. I just sat in my SUV watching.

    I was waiting for one of the girls to be picked up and taken away in a vehicle. Then I figured it would be safe to approach. About 10 minutes later, one of the girls was successful flagging down a car and talking to the driver. They were talking for about 30 seconds or so when he must've said the magic words. She took off her jacket. From all sides, guys in street clothes slowly, then quickly advanced to the car. They jumped the driver and pulled him out. Score number 1 for the cops. Then car across from me were also cops.

    I watched with some morbid fascination for about an hour and a half before they all left. During that time they made about 7 different arrests including at least one guy on foot.
  15. Ezrlove

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    Guy,

    The ladies of the night have been driving around in cars with out of state license plates for over 1 year now. They cruise around park ave between 31th and 26th street. Sometimes 2 or 3 ladies are in one car.They will pull up next to you and signal with hand jestures and sometime prices. If you understand what thay are saying you just nod and off you go to either a hotel or a dark parking lot. If you don't understand they will tell you to pull over so they can explain in further detail.

    According to Hot4chicks it looks like LE has caught on and now is randomly stopping cars. Remember LE can give you a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt also.
  16. Bill Furniture

    Bill Furniture Flounder

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    I used to go down to Hunts Point with my buddies and cruise around looking for girls. We recognized a few of them (even those who didn't interest us). If we didn't see any of the "regulars" around, the chances are that the police were sending out their ladies to pickup the guys.
  17. guy catelli

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    a civilian friend of mine often works late at his law firm -- near the Hilton at 53rd and 6th. he tells me that women will often pull up to him in their car while he's out getting a sandwich, and ask him, "hi, howya doin', etc?" anyone know if they're offering a car ride to paradise -- or to 'the other place'?
  18. hot4chicks

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    For all you guys cruising for love

    I've seen NYPD block 28th street, Park to Lex and ask every car for ID and run plates. They stop maybe 5-10 cars and let the rest of traffic through. Also, turning without signalling and other minor infractions will get you stopped.

    I once saw a guy on a motorcycle about to turn onto 29th from Park and a cop stops him and asks to see his helmet to verify its has the right rating.

    h4c, paranoia rules!
  19. Eye Won

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    Thanks Everyone

    Just a quick thanks for all the info. about spotting the fuzz....and Tank imma take you up on that offer,,,,,
    Imperialone...........Out
  20. lisa

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    sorry

    sorry tank i must have read the wrong one i apologize