Is Osama Next ???

Discussion in 'Politics and Religion' started by seeker6591, Jun 26, 2006.

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  1. lamont5123

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    Right. The only problem is the United States has had to reinvade some areas of Afghanistan twice to stem the tide of a resurgent Taliban.

    Iraq is an unholy mess, increasingly in the grips of a sectarian civil war.

    Few people are safe anywhere in Iraq. The educated elite have fled their country. The U.S. will be paying for this insane war for the next 20 years

    And every week, another body of a U.S. soldier comes home.

    For what?

    So that a bunch of people who know nothing of sacrifice can thump their chests as if they're actually doing somethin?
  2. DaveNJ

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    Yeah, but it was recorded over a year ago (or at least the portion where one of the 7/7/05 London bombers was speaking).

    What's more important is the plot they just uncovered to bomb NYC tunnels. An arrest was made in Lebanon, and associates of Zarqawi allegedly pledged material support to the plotters.

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/07/tunnel.plot.reut/index.html?section=cnn_latest

    While this probably wasn't an imminent threat, I give the proper authorities credit for their work on disrupting this plot in its early stages.
  3. dampfnudel

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    Another Al Qaeda tape was just released today (or yesterday) warning the people of London that there will be another attack soon.
  4. DaveNJ

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    Alec Station closed

    Apparently, the CIA station closed the Bin Laden unit late last year, reassigning all officers to the Counterterrorist Center.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

    C.I.A. Closes Unit Focused on Capture of bin Laden

    Published: July 4, 2006
    WASHINGTON, July 3 — The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants, intelligence officials confirmed Monday.

    The unit, known as Alec Station, was disbanded late last year and its analysts reassigned within the C.I.A. Counterterrorist Center, the officials said.

    The decision is a milestone for the agency, which formed the unit before Osama bin Laden became a household name and bolstered its ranks after the Sept. 11 attacks, when President Bush pledged to bring Mr. bin Laden to justice "dead or alive."

    The realignment reflects a view that Al Qaeda is no longer as hierarchical as it once was, intelligence officials said, and a growing concern about Qaeda-inspired groups that have begun carrying out attacks independent of Mr. bin Laden and his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

    Agency officials said that tracking Mr. bin Laden and his deputies remained a high priority, and that the decision to disband the unit was not a sign that the effort had slackened. Instead, the officials said, it reflects a belief that the agency can better deal with high-level threats by focusing on regional trends rather than on specific organizations or individuals.

    "The efforts to find Osama bin Laden are as strong as ever," said Jennifer Millerwise Dyck, a C.I.A. spokeswoman. "This is an agile agency, and the decision was made to ensure greater reach and focus."

    The decision to close the unit was first reported Monday by National Public Radio.

    Michael Scheuer, a former senior C.I.A. official who was the first head of the unit, said the move reflected a view within the agency that Mr. bin Laden was no longer the threat he once was.

    Mr. Scheuer said that view was mistaken.

    "This will clearly denigrate our operations against Al Qaeda," he said. "These days at the agency, bin Laden and Al Qaeda appear to be treated merely as first among equals."

    In recent years, the war in Iraq has stretched the resources of the intelligence agencies and the Pentagon, generating new priorities for American officials. For instance, much of the military's counterterrorism units, like the Army's Delta Force, had been redirected from the hunt for Mr. bin Laden to the search for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was killed last month in Iraq.

    An intelligence official who was granted anonymity to discuss classified information said the closing of the bin Laden unit reflected a greater grasp of the organization. "Our understanding of Al Qaeda has greatly evolved from where it was in the late 1990's," the official said, but added, "There are still people who wake up every day with the job of trying to find bin Laden."

    Established in 1996, when Mr. bin Laden's calls for global jihad were a source of increasing concern for officials in Washington, Alec Station operated in a similar fashion to that of other agency stations around the globe.

    The two dozen staff members who worked at the station, which was named after Mr. Scheuer's son and was housed in leased offices near agency headquarters in northern Virginia, issued regular cables to the agency about Mr. bin Laden's growing abilities and his desire to strike American targets throughout the world.

    In his book "Ghost Wars," which chronicles the agency's efforts to hunt Mr. bin Laden in the years before the Sept. 11 attacks, Steve Coll wrote that some inside the agency likened Alec Station to a cult that became obsessed with Al Qaeda.

    "The bin Laden unit's analysts were so intense about their work that they made some of their C.I.A. colleagues uncomfortable," Mr. Coll wrote. Members of Alec Station "called themselves 'the Manson Family' because they had acquired a reputation for crazed alarmism about the rising Al Qaeda threat."

    Intelligence officials said Alec Station was disbanded after Robert Grenier, who until February was in charge of the Counterterrorist Center, decided the agency needed to reorganize to better address constant changes in terrorist organizations.
  5. DaveNJ

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    If they have to put them on playing cards, they don't deserve to catch them.
  6. Ozzy

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    If we kill a few more hopefully it won't be for long.
  7. akm495

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    Osama, Zawahiri, KSM. The shits behind 9/11.

    The rest are not. I do not know Saddam's final number.
  8. akm495

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    I think I had read Mohammad is the worlds most popular name.
  9. Ozzy

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    Too many blind one legged terrorists for me to keep track of.... and they're all named fucking Mohammad.
  10. DaveNJ

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    You must be thinking of the other guy, because Mullah Omar has allegedly been seen jetting around Afghanistan riding a motorcycle. I suppose you could do that with one leg but it doesn't seem likely.

    Are you thinking of Zarqawi? He was reportedly wounded in Afghanistan and went to Iraq to get fitted for a prosthetic leg.
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  12. oddfellow4870

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    Planning a business trip?
  13. seeker6591

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    does anyone know how many had $25 million bounties on their head ?
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    how about two 500 pound bombs??
  15. its_mousey

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    Not if we kill him first.

    By the way, terrorist groups, esp. their higher echelon members, have been known to carry 'suicide pills.'

    But did it also occcur to anyone that the converse might also be true - that even if Bin Laden takes the pussy faggot way out (suicide), all we have to do is deny him that distinction by saying to the rest of the world that he died most unceromoniously by being splattered into pieces by a 500 lb. pound?

    *Squeak!*
  16. Ozzy

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    That's prob what threw me off.... I think only BL and Saddam were 25 million dollar men originally. Maybe Al Zarqawi worked his way up to that high a reward. But I do remember the top million dollar guys being BL, Saddam, his sons, Kahlid Mohemmed and the three other fools in that tent (Zawahiri, Omarr and the one they already killed whose name I can't recall).

    Maybe if the US military put BL, Zawahiri and Omarr on playing cards they'd catch them faster.
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  17. akm495

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    I think your forget Kahlid S. Mohemmed.
    The sons were only worth 15m each.
  18. Ozzy

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    Did it ever occur that OBL would rather kill himself than be captured (i.e. Hitler)
  20. DaveNJ

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    I never really answered the original question of the thread either. I sure as hell hope so, but don't see any indication that we are closer than we were years ago. Of course, we could easily wake up one day to the good news and that would be a beautiful thing. As Mousey said it won't do much to alleviate terrorism but he does need to pay for what he did.