Long Island Street Action

Discussion in 'Cheap Thrills' started by Escort_King, Sep 26, 2002.

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  1. WizardOfAhhs

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    Oh yeah, that's certainly a nightmare scenario, and entirely doable with current technology. But that would take a level of gov't oversight and intrusion that would make even Orwell cringe. Thankfully we're nowhere near that now; the system doesn't track anyone in "real time", it simply reads plates as they go by, compares the # to the #'s in a pre-loaded database of "wanted #'s", and sounds an alarm if it gets a match. However.... you can be sure that if gov't wants to go "real time" on it, they'll use the "law & order" angle to push the legislation through, and look to muzzle the civil libertarians who'll surely push back against the idea of tracking and recording everyone's movement on the assumption that some of them might possibly commit a crime.
  2. vad1

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    Monger: "I was just driving around to clear my head, officer."
    Officer: "Which head?!"

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  3. NorfShore

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    Yes, my concern is possible future connectivity between scanners, and patrol car computers. Lets say I go mongering one night... drive to W, Bay Shore, CI, and finally Coram and I get pulled over in Coram for being white late at night. If the cop can run my plate and see it was scanned in all those "hoods" over the past 2 hours, multiple times by the same scanner (couple passes on same road), it limits the "story" I can tell for being in Coram. Even worse if I find nothing in Coram and back-track through all those towns on my way home and end up pulled over in W.
  4. WizardOfAhhs

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    While technically correct, it's not the "N Y Jets" plate frames that are going to get you in trouble (unless maybe he's a Giants fan). It's the full plastic covers sold for the express purpose of defeating the plate readers. They don't work, but the cops know what you're trying to do. And that pisses them off.
  5. genius

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    I'm more interested in LE's use in getting open warrants, suspended licenses and DUI's off the streets.
    Another application of genius's "only commit one crime at a time" rule.
    BTW - anything blocking any part of a plate is illegal - this includes the advertising plastic frames that people put, e.g., car dealers, on their plate.
    We one likes this.
  6. WizardOfAhhs

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    Given the technical capabilities of the system, it's easy to see what the possibilities could be. Fortunately, we're not yet at the point where our every move is tracked in real time, a judgement call made as to our possible motives, and then a decision made as to whether or not we should be intercepted and picked up prior to actually committing any offense. i understand a lot of people disparage the ACLU for some of the positions they defend, but when the day comes that your 3AM ride thru Wyandanch is cause enough for you to be pre-emptively picked up fro questioning, it may turn out that the ACLU is the only friend you've got.
    BTW guys, if any of you use those plastic license plate covers to try and avoid having your plate read by either these scanners or the ones on toll booths (or any reason at all, for that matter), get rid of it. They're illegal in New York, and just having it on your car is reason enough for you to get pulled over (and once they've pulled you over, who knows where that can go). You just don't want to hand them carte blanche to pull you over any time they want. And second, they really don't work all that well anyway.
  7. genius

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    Thanks for the info - I can only assume that your knowledge of how it works now, comes from sources that you do not want to divulge. Some of the articles I have read in the press have (for various states) indicated that info not relevant to those you stated (and some you didn't such as DUI) are not ignored but only stored for a short period, e.g., 48 hours. Other articles I have read state plates registered to addresses outside the area, e.g., a plate from Dix Hills scanned in Wyandanch at 3 am, are flagged.
    There are a lot of chest beating by organizations such as ACLU about privacy issues - FWIW - I do not see an issue as plates have always been designed to be easily read - and I always assumed that a right to privacy is lost on public roads.

    I can see how this can cause problems - for example last new car I bought is driven mostly by my SO and her other car has passed on to me. So should I get photographed by a red light camera in an area I shouldn't be in with a unfamiliar woman in the front passenger seat my SO gets mailed the ticket and can view the infraction on video online. Once again perfect example of how my "only commit one crime at a time" rule applies - but stuff happens.
  8. WizardOfAhhs

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    It's not a matter of having an $8 jump drive to store data on. It's not done for the simple reason that the sector car operator is not the one who inputs and maintains the database.
    The database itself also doesn't contain notes about anything ("Stopped a red car with plate # 123xyz for talking to a known prostitute at 2PM in a White castle parking lot. Let him go with a warning."). No. The plates that are loaded in the database are plate #'s put in for a specific reason. Always for stolen cars, cars belonging to known persons with open warrants, expired registrations, etc. Some private databases are maintained that contain plate #'s of cars of people who are late on payments, to find them for repo. The only info the scanner picks up..and it does it automatically, not manually input by the cop on the street...is the location, date and time when it gets a hit on a plate # that's already been put in the database. If you're not already in it, it ignores you. And that's why NorfShore, unless his plate is already in the database for something, has nothing to worry about as he cruises from town to town. (At THIS point in time. Anything could change in the future. Just ask George Orwell))
  9. genius

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    You know this how? Technically this is a simple thing to do - every plate in the world could be stored along with a few notes (where and when scanned and reason to be stored) 10X over on a $79 backup memory. I don't see how this is a legal problem if scan is done on public streets.
  10. Banacek

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    Did you see the Newsday artilce the other day about NCPD ramping up their fixed camera plate scanners in select neighborhoods? I realize this won't affect most of the strolls discussed in here since those are mostly in Suffolk County. But I would guess that it could affect the Hempstead area. Then again, since that is patrolled by a village PD, NCPD may not have scanners there. In any event, I think the trend for street scanners will only increase in the future and may extend out to Suffolk at some point.
  11. WizardOfAhhs

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    They don't.
  12. texaco

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    Said she lives in East Northport, we met in Smithtown. She said she knew Rachel in Coram. Not really sure where she actually hangs out.
  13. joeyboy

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    is she in the coram area? would def like to meet up
  14. texaco

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    Speaking of Sasha, I texted her a couple weeks ago about getting together and she texted back the next day. We set up a meeting as she was going to be at the DSS on wireless road so I met her there at the appointed time. She hopped in my car, apologized for not dressing sexy and had her hair up since she was meeting with one of the clerks inside. Pulled up her top to show her tits, nice firm 34b's. Suggested we just drive around to the back parking lot and found a place between 2 cars for the bj. Very cute, very energetic, assumed the classic position, on her knees in the passenger seat, head in my lap and the BBBJCIM was very good. I had a big load, she swallowed most but used some napkins to handle the rest. Said she has a regular job but likes to do this for "fun". 35. Will most likely repeat.
  15. genius

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    Although I don't do the SW scene all that much - if I was passed by an LE cruiser either in my lane or in the opposite lane, e.g., me going S, LE going N, I would be done for the night and head home.
  16. genius

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    I don't know if they do anything with the plate info - but some of the cruisers have plate scanners and if I were running LE, I certainly would keep a file of all the plate info I scanned for future reference.
  17. NorfShore

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    Yes, sounds like her. Absolutely stick thin, but prob over 60? Never knew anal was available.

    HA! Her phone number has been dead, happened to run into her recently one night on a street behind the 7-11, she explained the guy she is staying with lets her use his vehicle during the day!

    Not sure about a watch list, but I have been pulled over in the "hood" late at night for being far away from home and in the "hood". Cop told me that is why he pulled me over, explaining the area was known for bad stuff. Luckily I had a good reason to be driving through, while casually mongering, not sure what I have said if he noticed multiple passes.

    Speaking of plates, I saw something in the news about considering the installation of fixed plate scanners in some towns, which may put a kink in mongering... why was your plate in W, BayS, CI, and Coram all in the same night?!
  18. Mongercode

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    I didn't know they did that with plates
  19. genius

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    A word to the wise: in past 20 years I have been stopped 2 times in Wyandanch. The last time I pulled into a gas station (where the Subway store is now - just S of HS) . A WSW came up to my car to talk to me and a LE cruiser swooped in outa nowhere, with one cop giving girl a pile of crap and the other questioning me as to why I was talking to her.
    Nothing came of it I think - who knows if they entered my plate into a watch list.
  20. frogger54

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    While I was making a delivery for my job today I saw a heavy BSW on (south side)SP with an umbrella waving down cars. I also went down little east neck rd and stopped at the sunoco to gas up. A very skinny 40ish wsw (looked like a crack head) saw me looking at her and came from across the street while I was pumping gas. She asked me for a ride to the diner, before I answered she asked if I was a cop. I talked to her a minute until I was done with the gas. Out of curiosity, I asked her the questions. $20 BBJ no CIM. Name was Carrie. I declined as I am not into SW. I gave her $5 because I felt bad. obviously she did not need a ride to the diner.

    Just posting this because I actually rarely ever see SW's or I'm just not paying attention and I just saw two within 5 minutes of each other. I though the little east neck road location was an odd place. But being that all the stores have section 8 apartments on top, it made some sense.