Just to be clear, my point wasn't that I dissagreed that Julies might be a good place for a first timer. I agree with you in all your points. I was just pointing out the caveats, because one of the bad things that happens to all of us in this hobby is when you go into a session expecting one thing and getting another. This can ruin sessions which should be good ones. Imagine if your first session turns out to be one of those !