Pleasant Topic--Gifts for the Ladies?

Discussion in 'New York' started by TuckernotSucker, Jul 14, 2001.

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  1. robnotbob

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    Dawn!!!

    Say the word baby. I am on LI the evening of August 1st.

    Email me. jetfan69@hotmail.com.
  2. Hotpuppy

    Hotpuppy Mr.Butterworth

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    Justme,
    Its your right to object to a product's price for whatever reason- if you choose to look for better value while retaining quality, Im sure you will have lots of fine experiences, however you will not have the experience of the Petrus level/However, as with so many things, the experience, as the late Timothy Leary said, is determined by set and setting. A ten dollar bottle of wine in a particular situation can taste every bit as good as the hundred dollar bottle. The object is to enjoy!
    take care HP

    [Edited by Hotpuppy on 07-23-2001 at 02:21 PM]
  3. Candide

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    "By and large, I avoid 'the best' and look for the best value (as long as it meets a certain standard of quality)."

    Justme, you sound like the way some guys sound around here when they are talking about a woman :)
  4. Slinky Bender

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    JM,

    Often heard that same sentiment expressed towards Opus.
  5. justme

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    HP - It didn't come across, but my objection to Petrus stems more from my suspicion that the price has been driven artificially high because it has become a prestige brand. I'd be surprised if there were not wines of similar quality at half the price. But then, that's how I approach life in general. By and large, I avoid 'the best' and look for the best value (as long as it meets a certain standard of quality).
  6. Carl M

    Carl M Hanging by a thread

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    Re: what rob?

    Mmm this could be a good thing for everyone concerned- LOL!! Do I hear unretire!
  7. Hotpuppy

    Hotpuppy Mr.Butterworth

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    justme,

    Like so many things that we pay for, the decision to do so stems from how important the particular item is to each one of us/ if you like wine, then drinking Petrus, even in a "bad" year is quite an experience, in a "good" year , it is almost indescribable/ on another thread a poster mentioned that mere words could not describe a particular lady- this is also true with wine such as Petrus, DRC, Guigal single vineyards etc. although there is no dearth of wine " reviews". A friend of mine, with whom I share a modest wine cellar( and the only person who knows of my other hobby), cannot fathom the expense of seeing escorts, yet thinks nothing of uncorking several hundreds of dollar bottles in an evening! If you get the opportunity to try a Petrus, savor the experience.
    take care HP

    [Edited by Hotpuppy on 07-21-2001 at 06:33 AM]
  8. justme

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    I'd work for a couple of bottles of Petrus (or any likewise ridiculously overpriced* bottle per day)

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    * - having never actually had any vintage of Petrus, I must admit that my opinion of them being overpriced is completely without basis in experience.
  9. ew

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    I speak partly in jest (about the romanitc part).

    However, I am still certain that that money is what it is all about. If you get better service for either gifts or tips then what does this say about the escort as a professional? That it makes her closer to a true GFE?

    Gifts may be warranted in some situations (rare) but if you give them all the time, how will she react when you can't/don't want to give a gift for whatever reason? You have established a norm for your behavior and then you deviated from it in a negative direction. Most likely she will respond negatively also.

    Hey I tip all/most of the time anyway and I think that $ are more appreciated (they don't work for being treated like a girlfriend their significant other does that for them). Suppose we were all romantics at heart, what the hell is she going to do with a few dozen roses or a couple of bottles of wine a day?
  10. justme

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    Among the women who have been of any interest to me, that statement is almost completely false.
  11. ew

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    There is nothing more romantic than money.

    It's like female viagra.
  12. justme

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    JC - If that knowledge and experience comes at the expense of future relationships with women who I will actually love then I suppose I will protect my ignorance to the best of my ability.
  13. Geezy Muldoon

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    justme:

    Ah, but to have felt and allowed the overlap to happen and then to still continue (albeit with others) can open you up and allow you to see and experience things about transactional type commercial sex that would have otherwise been missed or never noted. You are absolutely right, though, about the general advisability of avoiding and not seeking relationship type commercial sex. Produces catarrah and strains the nervous system.
  14. justme

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    WSB - note that I never said I gave gifts, I was just trying to explain one reason why a john might feel it important to be liked for being himself.

    Othello - It's funny you mention that, because I was just starting to differentiate some of the personalities on these boards along the same lines: transactional vs relationship building. It's my intuition, however, that relationship building in the commercial sex setting can be dangerous to all parties involved. I know many will disagree with me, but I tend to think that it is very difficult to compartmentalize your feelings in such a way that the consequencies of your commercial transactions will not be felt in your non-commercial endeavors. Really, I have absolutely no desire for the hobby to overlap into my 'real' relationships and the second that I felt it was, I would never pay for sex again.
  15. LIDAWN

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    what rob?

    you do not like who i am when i got ya to myself? maybe we should try it again?
    you were such a gentleman and the sex was well..... i remember it wellllllllll
  16. robnotbob

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    Dawnie:

    Is THAT what you call it?? "Letting your hair down".....LOL.....
  17. Othello

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    My response to you would be to define discount . It's a little more to me than simply paying a lesser fee for services rendered. One woman said I seemed like more of the "relationship" oriented type, as opposed to the "transaction" oriented type.

    The "dividends" I receive for my "patronage" are generally extended time, lots more verbal conversation, deeper looks into each other's eyes, shared confidences, etc.

    The drawback is that such patronage can become MENTALLY and PHYSICALLY exhausting. You can become REALLY INTIMATE with some of the ladies. In the end, you end up getting more than you originally bargained for.

    Best regards,

    "Othello"
  18. Carl M

    Carl M Hanging by a thread

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    Re: me personally

    I do concur sweets- sort of like unleashing the caged animal. Quiet on the outside, but wild on the inside!
  19. wsb

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    So giving gifts renders you more likeable??? What does that say about providers? Kind of kills the fantasy. Sounds a bit too much like real life to me.

    --WSB
  20. LIDAWN

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    me personally

    hi guys.. he is the skinny..
    I am very shy in public but very chatty and open in private.. i figure gee this guy is gonna let down his guard for me so i drop most of mine..
    i hold some of me sacred for personnal relationships but for the most part i am what i am.. ask the gents i know..
    EZ CARL M. tucker ROB ect.. i think they will concur that this is whom i am.. once i feel safe i let my hair down so to speak along with my guard..
    DAwn