Discussion in 'Stripclubs, Strippers and Porn Stars' started by nycstripclubs, Mar 24, 2006.
Hilarious...and right on as always.
Man, I totally forgot about her! Isn't it funny when someone mentions a person from your past who you completely forgot even existed? I agree. She was fabulous at projecting the exact kind of attitude that people want to see in a strip club.
That was kinda Russian Linda's secret.
I agree. Once a certain point has been reached in the looks department, it's the 'tude that's gonna make it or break it for a dancer. Some girls apparently view looking like they're having fun at work as an insurmountable challenge. It's really depressing to watch them loiter around the edges of the club with that "I can't believe how much this sucks" look on their face.
And the sad thing is, those kinds of strippers tend to make just enough money to make them want to stay in the business when what they really need to do is find some other way to make a living.
self-destructive behavior with providers...i'm shocked.
There are a lot of dancers who act as if they don't want to make another dollar in their lives. Some of them would be making a mint if they had better attitudes, because some of them are really hot. It just confirms my conviction that attitude trumps looks every time. Once looks cross some personal-to-me threshold of "good enough," it's all about attitude. I'm tired of buying dances and not getting anything for 'em.
Btw, it isnt that unusual for some strippers to work in both kinds of clubs as long as there are no schedule conflicts.
You're certainly right about that - although over the long term you just average a whole lot more at a high end place.
you know better than i would; but i know there are women walking out of mid-range rooms with as much as 1,500. is that consistent? that i couldn't say. however, i would definitely say there is less potential for a catastrophically poor night. like you said, on nights where you do not sell a vip, the money can be slim; but with a lap dance with extras being so much less of a financial commitment at a mid level club, i couldn't imagine there'd be any strike out nights.
did not know this. sorry for your misfortune.
Freudian slip, i guess.
I agree with a lot of what you've said - but not with the financial aspect. I don't think I could ever consistently make as much money at a low end place as I could at a high end place with insanely expensive vip rooms. There's just not enough time in the night to do as many dances or low cost extras as it would take to equal what I could make in 2 or 3 hours in the champagne room of a high end club, even factoring in the tip out.
One thing is for certain - my average at the low end place would surely top what I'd make at the high end place IF I didn't sell any rooms at the high end place, but I almost always could manage at least one hour when I was working.
Speaking of business smarts - it's always fascinated me how there's some very hot dancers who rarely do well at the club because of their terrible attitudes. They sit in the dressing room and bitch about how dead it is and how they aren't making any money. What they don't realize is how much easier they're making my job, since i can just agree with them about how bad business is that night, turn around, and go hustle some dances. It's like they think their job is not supposed to be work or something - it boggles my mind.
The top earners are not only some of the best looking girls, but they're also always working, no matter how slow it is or how discouraged they might become.
I sort of thought that too, but just wasnt entirely sure of it. Her last post makes it sound like thats correct.
Not much I can add to that, M. Its right on the money and its just as true in the LE clubs. The discrminators in strip clubs are looks and business smarts, not place of birth.
FWIW, I think you left out a "not" there, brykster.
I'm positive that's what she meant to begin with.
Lotsa benefits to reap from someone who lives thousands of miles from me and I'll probably never see again in my life.
if i may, i would think some of the finer points of the LE club scene that we've pointed out, you may not have been aware of, and perhaps you realize it is as distasteful as you had once thought.
we are all learning here. merely weeks ago i had no idea that high end clubs were basically flashy fronts for high end prostitution and drug dealing. now i know that much. i also didn't know club manager = pimp and dealer.
rather than a social experiment, i think this would be an experiment about yourself. i'll tell you one thing, if you are so head and shoulders above everyone else the way JL says you are, it is highly conceivable given the financial situations in both environments, that you can walk out of some low (guys have posted here tipping upwards of 200.oo for extras at these clubs) to mid-level clubs like Hitchin' Post or Roxxies, with more money that you would make in the city by virtue of the fact that you get to keep a much higher percentage of what you make.
will you get rich at Rah Rah's or Mickey Dee's, of course not..but there are some low to mid level clubs that operate like low end clubs where some bigger money is exchanging hands.
i think more guys would be willing to pay 4 to 6oo bucks for some serious action, if they knew every dime of it was going to the dancer. this is why i won't buy drinks, tip or otherwise give away money that does not, in some way, benefit me. i am not a charitable guy (well, actually i am; but not in the strip club environment), i believe that each dime i spend in this place should not only benefit me; but go directly and in total to the person responsible for pleasing me. yes, i realize without the club owner, i wouldn't have the environment..so fine and good let him get his 10 to 15%...but i see no reason why when you go into a high end place and pay 1000.00 for a VIP experience that less than 50% of that is going into the dancer's pocket.
actually, let me amend my initial comment: club manager = pimp, dealer and extortionist : )
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