Prices Going Down?

Discussion in 'New York' started by Bill Furniture, Jun 7, 2001.

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  1. Bill Furniture

    Bill Furniture Flounder

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    Posing in strange positions?

    Here you go Candie!

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  2. ew

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    Nobody deletes anything important.
  3. candie

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    Frankly, I am finding comparison shopping now on clients! Theres so much biz out there but not everyone wants to give the information a provider requires. Those that don't can surely find someone.

    *** remember there is always a reason why someone has low prices.


    References: Oh I smile wide when I read ew's. If I have a new client, <Which now I wont take> after he has shown me his ID, my immediate thought is... doesnt he want to see mine? Heck no!!! He has pictures of providers in some very strange positions, why ask? But he could ask me to reinact some stupid pose!!! lol

    I think it might be a good idea to now begin insisting on pictures of potential clients naked and in strange positions! Then there won't be a need to ask for ID :)

    But in all seriousness, there are way to many girls with someones personal info that use it in a vicious evil ways. I will say that most of those girls are young ones that are inexperienced in what to delete after a booking!

    I do think it is very important to let everyone know if there was a provider who ripped you off. That makes us all look bad and I for one wouldnt want that piece of **** emailing me or have anything to do with!

    For the most part I do try to put myself in a clients position...<69 with a bigggggggggggg winks> and I know I would be asking and refusing exactly what most say on this board! No way can anyone Ever allow someone to have access to your home phone number but well, the reverse directory sure helps out when someone gives me their phone number. I am content with that type of reference as I really hate calling someones work and saying... "who shall i say is calling? I hateeeeeeeee saying.... candie. Most times I haven't had the chance to prepare a name with the gent inquiring. sorry for rambling...I should be mastrabating but I can't.
  4. Ozzy

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    speaking of lower prices.....

    one of the best bargains in NYC is gonna ba available for a few more months...

    marina, who was thought to be leavng for brazil for good this week, has decided to stay until thanksgiving or xmas......so you still have a few more months to see her.

    917-447-3908 $200/hr
  5. mercydancer

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    Mostly all it takes is a little common sense and gut feeling. If something in the pit of your stomach doesn't"feel" right,don't do it. I have never had a Mr.NoNeck to count on but, one of my club sisters always has my back.That's enough for me.

    As for references,if someone that I have already met gives me the ok,fine. Other than that it's gut feeling only.
    They have never failed me yet. Lower rates,well that depends on person, place and things.
    Let's not forget that the main idea is to have fun.
  6. ew

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    I don't have a problem with the phone number, but the last requirement makes the system a closed loop.

    Unless you or Carl M want to vouch for me (just joking).

    Which again narrows the pool of clients.

    My point is that some clients will just go to escorts who don't require it. Methinks a lot of people.
  7. Ozzy

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    My personal view on references:
    Work number verification - HAHAHAHA - I don't think so
    Home phone - likewise
    non-caller blocked number - common sense, no problems
    reference from another provider - maybe



    the last two is all that should be required. a cell phone helps if you don't want calls to your home or work or your real name posted on the caller ID. most of the time all the girls really want, is a valid phone # to call you back at. if you're too worried about giving even this little bit of info.......then you best find a new hobby to occupy your time.




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  8. ew

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    I am all for safety, but many will not do the reference route.

    I would say that the providers who need the extra safety provided by references are the web escorts. It is so very public and so easy to penetrate, Debbie Croft being the latest example.

    Say it is reference only or something, can you imagine if it was as hard to see all escorts as say it was to get into Julies? This being an industry with free entry, new escorts will then come in and force the issue with the more established escorts. Pretty much like what happened when prices rose, it attacted an s-load of new providers which was able to be absorbed because of the red-hot economy.

    So, with Wall Street basically on an hiring freeze and a lot of places downsizing...
    The management consulting firms are cutting back too...
    I would assume that law firms will freeze next years pay packages for new employees and maybe try to defer the start date and hope they go away like IB's have been doing.

    Lest we forget, "Gerald" would be around whether the price was $400 or $300. So safety is not related to prices directly. I think the case that be argued from escorts would be that you meet a beter class of client with the prices being a filter for the low-lifes. Well if the economy is going into the shitter even low-lifes have less money.

    So the appeal for references is simply a desire for safety and can't be linked to other issues. Again, my view is the webscorts are too high profile for their own good, necessitating the need for additional safety. Escorting is a dangerous business and the longer you are in it and the higher the profile you are the easier the target. Just look at the other escort who where either too good and other players in the industry drove them out. What if a client got pissed and decided not to just post a bad review but decided to go to LE?

    My personal view on references:
    Work number verification - HAHAHAHA - I don't think so
    Home phone - likewise
    non-caller blocked number - common sense, no problems
    reference from another provider - maybe

    Funny how escorts don't want to talk about the economy slowing down, but will pile on the bandwagon for references? Can I assume that if references are needed I can also see a price drop from $300 to $250?
    How about linking it that way?

    Hey, when I go somewhere new I always wonder if I'm going to get robbed. I do have hundreds of dollars in my pocket (or more). I am bigger and stronger than most girls (I think!) but I am not stronger or bigger than MR.NO NECK guy hiding in the closet?

    Can I verify the escort?

    What is asking for a work number akin to for an escort? Can I see you license and or pay stub/bank acount statement?

    I didn't think so either.
  9. Ozzy

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    oh and the girls on LI who are lowering their rates.......

    remember one of them posted a clients personal info on TBD last year...his real name and street address. maybe thats why she's having problems booking at her current rate.



    REMEMBER NOTHING IS EVER FREE IN THIS COUNTRY. if it's on sale, theres usualy a good reason for it.
  10. Ozzy

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    it's all about supply and demand.....


    the brazilians who raised their rates are the ONLY girls to advertise here on UG and have since had very little problems in booking. i think a few great reviews that appear on other sites (jag & ***) are also reasons for their rise in business and rates.


    as far as what any particular girl charges......it's all up to them and what they feel they should get. if guys feel they're worth the extra $$$, than they'll have no problems getting whatever the rate is.....and if they're not worth it than they'll have problems getting any rate they ask.


    and when it comes to asking a girl to cut her rates in half or more, remember guys...........you not buying, and they're not selling you a frozen chicken.



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  11. Casper

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    Jaypee begins comparison shopping.

    I'm at the window shopping stages myself.
    Peace out
    C
  12. mercydancer

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    Personally, I believe that there shouldn't be any resentment at least not on the providers' side.It's just a matter of the economy being on a roller coaster ride and having to adjust to the situation.Those that do will probably survive and those that don't well..who knows.
  13. Slinky Bender

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    candie,
    I think that's two sides of the same coin. Because of the reason and the fact that prices are down, I think you'll find more resentment on both sides. Increased resentment always leads to increased problems, finger pointing, etc. What you'll also get soon are increased cries of "foul" from both sides.

    Not that anyone predicted this would happen.........
  14. littleguy

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    BF,

    So who are these ladies ? If it's been posted already, is there any reason why you can't name them here ?
  15. mercydancer

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    take note of Candie's post. It will probably be echoed by many of us.
  16. candie

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    Hugs Bill F

    prices are going down some, but for sure problems are escalating. References will be required.
  17. jaypgee

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    Thanks Bill, but do you know if any in the city lowered theirs? I know some actually raised their prices, such as the Brazilians. Not exactly (semi) recession busters, these gals.
  18. Bill Furniture

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    JPEG,

    One or two girls on LI lowered their rates. I think it was posted on Utopia and TBD Boards.
  19. jaypgee

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    Mr Bill,

    I'm relatively new to these boards (at least publicly; I'm what you guys refer to ask a "lurker"), so you don't know me. But, I ask, do you have any examples, or any indy's who have lowered their rates?

    Thanks..

    JPEG
  20. Bill Furniture

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    I'd rather not see a provider than ask her to lower her rates for me. I would think that she'd be holding back because I paid less. They'd have to suggest it to me.

    [Edited by Bill Furniture on 06-08-2001 at 11:04 PM]