Session management; who's responsibility ?

Discussion in 'General Industry Related Topics' started by Slinky Bender, Dec 22, 2000.

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  1. oddfellow4870

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    I'd say the title "hooker" says it all.

    I have associates in the consulting business who provide free services to get the client 'hooked", then gradually charge them full rates.

    Looks like the same idea to me ....
  2. Rhett

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    Is there any situation where a guy and a lady disagree that the guy is not wrong?
  3. BigMadM

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    this isnt a car rental when you sign if youre late one hour, you pay an extra days rental.
    If the agency or girl is that tight on each hour, they should make it their business to let you know your time is up.
    If the client cant accept this, then he doesnt have to come back
    If the agency doesnt lilke that type of client, so what,
    Noone is expected to tip, or pay after the fact for something that wasnt agreed on first.
    (Its the same when one has a shitty session with a girl, will the agency refund my money if I was totally unsatisfied. NO, NO, NO)
  4. surfdude

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    So my point is...

    How do you know when an agency is trying to put you on the hook for more money? What do you do if you didn't come prepared ($$$) for this?

    It's like going to a show and the performers come out and do an encore...then at the door, they tell you you SHOULD (but don't absolutely have to) pay an additional fee for the excellent encore before you leave, and they give you the guilt trip.

    I'm not like some of the gents on this board...leaving big tips, buying dinner and flowers, and doing multihour appts with expensive providers. I think that like alot of people here, if i were totally fiscally responsible, i wouldn't be doing this at all...but i do try to be careful with my money and stay within a budget. Being careful is what permits me to hobby. To me, spending huge sums of money on this is a waste. I've had some of the best sessions of my life for under $200, and i don't think a $500 orgasm is necessarily better than a $200 orgasm (i think that's another topic on this board). At some point, i think even the high priced pornstars who charge $1500 and up per hour, that when you blank out the "pornstar" label and you see them as a person, they're just as human as the $300 girl, and the sex can only be as good as your physiology permits...which is probably about the same no matter whether the girl is expensive or not. Has anybody here ever had a stroke with the $1500 girl because the sex was 6 times better than the $250 girl?

    But, i guess from now on, i'm gonna have to walk around with an extra Franklin in my back pocket just in case.
  5. BigMadM

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    no surfdude, youre not wrong, the girl or her boss has to be aware of whats going on timewise if appts are lined up.
    There are different ways of handling the situation, nice ways, and shitty ways.

    I find in interesting. And Im not directing this at any owners or girls, that an owner would scold a client for running late, but hundreds, yes HUNDREDS of times girls have been at least 30 minutes late getting to me, they scold me for getting pissed off.
    They are always scolding someone. They feel like hey, its not a perfect world, and these girls, well, what can I tell you.

    Yeah, so when a guy is having some fun, and goes 15 minutes over because the girl didnt stop him, just take it, and be happy a client is happy.
    Fucking business. Only in this fucking business.
  6. surfdude

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    I think i kinda said that.
  7. surfdude

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    It was an incall place in another east coast city (not NY). The owner was the one who busted my chops, as i was walking out with the girl. The girl was sweet as could be, and she didn't say a word as this was going on. And yes, i did leave a tip...it wasn't much, but it was all i had. I never expected, first of all, that we would go overtime...maybe it was actually another 15 min of addtional action...the rest being cleanup and shower. And i never expected to be ripped a new one over it. If i wasn't traveling home that day and needed the money, i would have given more.

    I've also seen this happen two other times with other agencies.

    And, i had no idea that another appointment was scheduled after mine. There was no mention of it, and it's not my responsibility to know. If i knew somebody would actually miss/cancel their appointment, i would have stopped...i hate it when i'm delayed by somebody else.
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  8. BigMadM

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    dont think it was Julies.
  9. Tcat425

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    damned if you do...

    A. If there was another appt. you woulda received a door knock.
    B. You shouda tipped both the Madame and the girl
    C. Fuck em if they can't take a joke it ain't the only whorehouse or even the best whorehouse in town.
    El Gato
  10. BigMadM

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    come on, who yelled at you?
  11. loulovesit

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    you are totally wrong in going over, and should have given the girl extra money.
  12. surfdude

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    Has anyone had this happen

    Has anyone ever had a madame/agency owner scold you for going overtime?

    It happened to me today after a superb session...i was grinning ear to ear as i was walking out of an incall place, then the madame laid into me about going overtime by 30 min, and the appointment that cancelled because of my overtime visit, and the "i hope you tipped her well" comment just all spoiled my good mood and made me feel like an ass. Meanwhile, nobody rushed me, knocked on the door, mentioned that time was running out or another appt was waiting, and i was even offered a shower and another drink....it all led me to think i could take my time.

    I truly thought this young lady was really enjoying herself, as she just kept going, even though i had popped near the end of the hour....i figured she was just enjoying herself and wasn't a clock watcher...what the hell? What guy is going to stop in the middle of a BJ and say "ok, you've gotta quit now...time's up...now take my dick out of your mouth!"

    Was it technically rude of me to go overtime?...yes. Do i technically owe more money for eating up more time?...yes. Did i intentionally want to screw over anybody or bump some other guy's appointment?....no. But i guess if this is such an issue, then they should knock on the door or just tell me that time's up. I'm not responsible for running their fucking business and making sure they're on time...they are! When you go to Disneyland, do you get out and stop the ride yourself because "time's up"?....No! You keep riding it until Disney tells you the ride is over.

    What i've concluded is that some agencies will have the girls go above and beyond the call of duty so that they have you on the hook, then they pressure you for more $$$. The truth is...if i had more money with me, i probably would have coughed it up. I felt pretty stupid that i assumed she was just not being a clockwatcher and enjoying the session. I found myself worrying that her boss would reduce her take on the fees to make up for the lost appointment. Truth is that there probably never was a cancelled appointment on my account.
  13. justme

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    I find the entire notion that any John knows what's good for a pro more than the pro herself just a little condescendingly nauseating. If session time runs over, and the pro allows it, I can only assume that she doesn't have a problem with it. On the other hand, I think it's perfectly fair for a pro to charge for excessive overtime (as long as she makes you aware that she's doing it before you go over). Conversely, I think that it's every john's responsibility to make sure that he gets his full amount of time and isn't shortchanged. In short, everyone should be responsible for themselves... not too hard, no?
  14. mr. wonderful

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    Glad this is all fictional Ozzy. But if it was true, then a real friend might bust your balls a little (a real close friend could bust your balls alot) but no one would tell you that they "told you so" (even though I did, but I'm not gonna say it).

    If you want an open ear, drop me a line. And no, that is not a come on (although you could do worse). I don't do ON's though.

    MW
  15. Ozzy

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    just thought i'd make a post here since it's been slow and i don't want my moderator friend jumping into the chilly waters of the east river......lol


    besides you have to hang around long enough to find out how this fitional story ends........
  16. Ozzy

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    btw the friend who did the veal will be there.........maybe you and he can discuss 4 legged animals together.
  17. Ozzy

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    picky picky, ok im going out saturday(tonight)to get hammered with a few friends and maybe this fictitious girl and her cute bi friend(not the she/he)...wanna come? it'll be in the city someplace....probably chelsey area
  18. Slinky Bender

    Slinky Bender The All Powerful Moderator

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    you said "we should get together sometime and talk" or the equivalent thereof. That's not really the same as "I'm going out Friday with a few friends to get really hammered. Do you want to come ?".
  19. Ozzy

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    you sure i didn't ask this past wed or thrs.....i know it was after the BOOM! on jag.
  20. Slinky Bender

    Slinky Bender The All Powerful Moderator

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    nope. last invite was last week.