The Grey Zone

Discussion in 'Stripclubs, Strippers and Porn Stars' started by greyfox, May 19, 2006.

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  1. justlooking

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    BTW, Roberto's or Dominick's?
  2. justlooking

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    If she's not comfortable spending time with you, this thing is doomed, IMO (at least for my purposes: some guys affirmatively want nothing more than quickie sex and nothing but).
  3. justme

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    Sexually inexperienced women are new shoes waiting to be molded to your feet.
  4. greyfox

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    I was planning on going to a place on Arthur Ave. since she's an Italian girl transplanted from out of state to the Bronx a month ago and lives ten minutes away.She seemed in a hurry skip the meal and get it on or,more likely,make money without dawdling on her night off from dancing.
  5. justlooking

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    The basic message is, try to conduct things in a way that doesn't scream, "You're a whore and I'm a john." It really works.

    But you don't need me to tell you that.
  6. justlooking

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    Also, forget the moderately seedy hotel and take her somewhere nice.

    Again, I've reaped HUGE benefits from that.
  7. justlooking

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    You wanna know what I recommend? Take her out to dinner. A very good but not uncomfortably fancy one. Make her feel like it's not just some prostitute/john thing but an actual human interaction. (Assuming she's willing to do it.) I reap HUGE benefits that way.
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    Anticlimactic Resolution

    After a few more phone conversations and baiting with innuendo,the situation was clarified without ever having coffee.We reached an agreement for a straight up pay for play session at a moderately seedy motel.She seemed to be a novice at both commercial sex and sex in general(awkward with condoms,unfamiliar with many sexual positions) but without a trace of anxiety or ambivalence.It was basically a vanilla commercial encounter with a very sexy looking young girl who barely had a mastery of basic sexual techniques.It felt comfortable,real and warm,but the best pros I've found can provide a sesssion that feels both real and hot.The initial incongruity between her bold behavior and coy conversation just threw me off.Repeat?Maybe.A more experienced woman may take a while to feel comfortable enough with a john to let herself enjoy the encounter.The limitation for me with this girl feels more like her lack of familiarity with her own sexuality than her comfort level with me.It might improve with time,but compared to a session with very good more experienced pro,it might not be worth it to me considering the time and money it would take.So,I'll probably go back in the near future to my usual turf of marginally more valuable mini-reviews of visiting eros girls .

    BTW-She says she never met her father.
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  9. clive

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    Greyfox

    Yo GF,
    What are you doing up at 4:15 AM. Don't you have to work tomorrow.

    I agree with Just Looking
  10. justlooking

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    True.
  11. brykster

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    yes, please do. this one is pretty interesting : )
    -good luck Greyfox
  12. nyclap

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    Please keep us updated as this story unfolds.
  13. justme

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    For old time's sake...

    Heh..
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    and Angela Molina... wonder which one you've got.
  15. greyfox

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    I appreciate everyone's input.There is no downside to this from my perspective.I usually don't post this kind of story but it had some weird elements like the circuitous propositioning of roommate A(btw,I still would really like to do her) and getting a call from roommate B aspect and girl B's inexperience(not only indicated by her unusually ingenuous demeanor,but also by both of her roommates stating she had just started dancing and the fact that she took a week off after getting blisters from dopey stripper shoes after her first weekend).I'll go out 'for coffee' first since we've spent a little less than an hour total phone and face time.I'm in no rush to get laid and will have no regrets if I don't.Even though I hope that our mutual expectations are clarified before body fluids are spilled,these things can go awry.

    jl-Despite specifying the terms of your arrangement with one girl,when you gave her the cash wasn't her reaction something like,"Oh, so it's gonna' be like that"?

    zara-"The Devil is a Woman" with Marlene Dietrich,"That Obscure Object of Desire" with Carole Bouquet and "La Femme et le Pantin" with Brigitte Bardot are all based on the same novel and have great looking women.I have not seen the adaptation with Bardot but the other two are great.
  16. lamont5123

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    Some of us have the Daddy gene.
  17. justlooking

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    I have to say that I have never come to feel about any stripper I've slept with as if she were my daughter.
  18. justlooking

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    My Life In A Nutshell.

    (Well, part of it anyway.)

    (Good thing hvb isn't here anymore.)
  19. lamont5123

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    GreyFox,

    It's a friend with benefits situation.

    Be prepared to shell out some bucks, take her shopping and act like her Dad or uncle in public. You'll have to act like that unless you want some unwelcome attention.

    Since you're childless, it's quite possible you may start thinking of her as a daughter at some point.

    And become protective. That's when you'll get emotionally involved.

    The fact that you posted this shows that you do have questions about what you're doing.

    Which is good.

    Have fun.
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  20. justme

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    I could've just dittoed your post, but everyone seems to hate that.

    If I were more cynical, I'd add that greyfox has a tremoendous opportunity. You've got a young woman who undoubtedly is doing a job that she hates so she must have some kind of fincancial pressure, imagined or real, internal or external. She's probably looking for a way out of her current solution. She doesn't know the market and what's she's worth. She probably isn't even really sure what she wants or is willing to do. How easy would it be to control that kind of negotiation.

    If there's a deal to be had at all, that is.