The Inequities of it All

Discussion in 'General Industry Related Topics' started by One Eyed Trouser Trout, Jan 30, 2001.

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  1. HornDogBuddah

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    Aren't the blue traces a negative? I haven't experienced any blueness, and probably will be happy without it. I think I'll stick to the 50 mg dose. Any idea of what dose works with females? (I have read some literature that describes similar benefits for nonorgasmic women as for men with ED.) I have not read anything conclusive about what effect Viagra has on men who have normal erectile functionality, not have I read anything at all on the effect on women who are orgasmic.

    Any ladies on this board who have tried Viagra?
  2. Rufus Moses

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    I'd worry more about Herbal V than the little blue pill. You don't really know what the herbs are, or how strong they are...it may even vary from bottle to bottle of the same brand.

    But yeah, I can feel it at 1 hour, peaks at 3 hours, lasts until 5-6 hours...for me especially with the 100 mg.s. 50's seem to follow the same time curve, but don't peak as high, and I don't get the intense blue visual traces.
  3. HornDogBuddah

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    RM: so it kicks in after about one hour and then peaks at 3 hours? She must think you da man! Now let me get this straight -- Herbal V offers the chance for fast acting onset (spilling two cups within 5 minutes and being ready for a third, all within 5 minutes) and the little blue wonder kicking in at the one hour mark and building to a peak a couple of hours later? Yowza! How much money will this cost me in doing back-to-back-to-back-to.....sessions?

    Anyway, I know it doesn't work like that. And here I am, fresh from my annual physical exam this morning, with a brand new scrip for Viagra in my wallet.

    I wonder if one of the gals who is posting on UG would consider donating a three-hour session with me in the interests of scientific endeavor. We could do a little champagne (or, more to my preference, a nice grand cru burgandy or first growth bordeaux), each of us washing down one of Pfizer's finest, and then see if we can make the Earth move for three hours. I know I won't need the blue pill for the first go around, but maybe the Rufus Moses effect will happen. Wouldn't that be something?

    What do you think, girls? Does anyone have a sense of scientific curiosity?
  4. Rufus Moses

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    Well yeah, its really medicine. Anything that alters your blood flow should be taken seriously.

    One contraindication (?) is that you shouldn't take Viagara with nitrate based heart medicines...there can be a fatal interaction of some kind.

    Nitrous Oxide is sometimes used as a sexual enhancement (especially for those who like to giggle like idiots while they get it on)...from what I've read Nitrous actually has minimal interaction with the general metabolism...but I wonder if it would have a similar dangerous interaction with Viagara.

    Part of me feels like if it was dangerous people would have already died in numbers and I would have heard about it on Extra! MSNBC Special Report or some other tabloid show.
    Then again...maybe not...

    (By the way I didn't mean it didn't work for me in 1 hour...it has significant effect after 1 hour...it seems to peak for me around 3 though. Maybe I have the time released capsules ;)
  5. One Eyed Trouser Trout

    One Eyed Trouser Trout #1 Cowboys Fan

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    HornDog and RM

    The clinicals required for FDA approval suggest that a majority of the test patients obtained sufficient erectile response for coitus at 1 hour. But, that doesn't mean it's gonna work in 1 hour for everybody.

    It's been my personal experience that when I start to feel nasal stuffiness and a slight headache...I'm good to go.

    While Viagra will aid in faster recovery between erections, I don't look for it to maintain an erection post ejaculation, even though it has happened on at least 1 occasion. But instead of a few hours to be ready for more, it can cut the recovery time down to maybe 30 minutes on a pretty regular and routine basis.

    A note of caution. Viagra has some potentially significant and potentially hazardous side effects, increasing the dosage with the hopes of having a stainless steel dick that lasts for hours might prove to be a dangerous move. Select a dose that aids in the achievement of a more normal erection with tolerable side effects and stay with that dose...start with 50mg first.

    Viagra is also available in 25 mg strengths for those who respond really well but experience intolerable side effects at 50mg.

    In all cases, do not use Viagra without the supervision of a physician.
  6. Rufus Moses

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    50's and 100's. The former works fine, the latter lasts longer and you get the wierd blue light visuals happening. Its actually kind of trippy visually...Also the 100's tend to make my skin noticably warmer than expected to the touch.

    They say its effect peaks quickly, but I've found that it really kicks in like 2 to 3 hours later for me. I have no idea why. Maybe I am a freak.

    In fact, all of the above should only be taken to be about my good or bad luck with the drug. Its effect is known to vary widely. I try to not think about placebo effect...lest it stop working! :D
  7. HornDogBuddah

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    RM, it's my understanding that viagra dosages have been formulated for men with ED -- is there a dose-related effect for guys who don't have ED but want to give themselves a little "edge" or "boost"? (My internist gave me a free sample of 5 tablets. I've tried taking one an hour before having sex with my wife, but I couldn't tell if it made any difference. (Since I wasn't expecting to stay hard after I came, I wasn't disappointed when I didn',t but maybe if my expectations had been different, my performance might have followed suit.....) What dosage do you take?
  8. Rufus Moses

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    I'll "out" myself right here and now. I use Viagara on occasion. As a recreational drug. Every guy knows that not all erections are equal. Even if you are 100% functional, some hard-ons are better than others, and there is something to be said for being able to cum and remain erect. It really puts you in your "A" game.

    Annnnd it works for women too. A friend of mine can only cum 30-40% of the time, but if she pops a little blue pill its close to 100%. That extra blood flow seems to help.

    Bottom line its fun. I believe in chemically enhanced sex. One of my favorite things in the world is to pop a vitamin V, smoke some pot, and then have sex. I don't have to...but I happily choose to!
  9. robnotbob

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    What's up with that "Horny Goat weed" that's advertised on "Opie and Anthony" on NEW-FM?
  10. Ozzy

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    sold in GNC, totaly legal and no perscrip. it's called "herbal V" small white bottle with a green label.

    i guess i do owe some credit to the special lady.......but she's not as easy to get............nor as cheap.

    [Edited by Ozzy on 01-30-2001 at 07:57 PM]
  11. frog

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    herbal oz, you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes
  12. HornDogBuddah

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    Spilling two cups of coffee and then being ready for a third, all in 5 minutes? What is this stuff? Herbal V? And it's legal? Where the hell have I been? 'Scuse me, but I'm off to the herb store.

    [Edited by HornDogBuddah on 01-30-2001 at 07:32 PM]
  13. Ozzy

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    because i never spilled two cups in five minutes..........and was ready for a third.

    btw....we all might not need it......but we can sure use it now and then.


    [Edited by Ozzy on 01-30-2001 at 07:24 PM]
  14. Slinky Bender

    Slinky Bender The All Powerful Moderator

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    So, then, how would you know that it works just as good for guys who actually do need it ?
  15. Ozzy

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    herbal V works just as good as viagra.....

    over the counter and $16.95 for 10 pills.



    not that i need it.
  16. Slinky Bender

    Slinky Bender The All Powerful Moderator

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    Viagra is prescription, Astroglide it over the counter ( and a hell of a lot cheaper ).
  17. Ozzy

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    but as a man gets older he looses it......

    when a woman gets older she gets better.

    at least thats what all the old hags say.
  18. One Eyed Trouser Trout

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    Did you ever stop to think about the inequities between boyz and girlz?

    A man gains character as he ages...a woman gets old.

    A man who is adept in bed is a stud...and a woman is called everything under the sun.

    Hillary. What's your opinion?