Discussion in 'Stripclubs, Strippers and Porn Stars' started by genius, Aug 16, 2006.
Yes she is absolutely the body type I like.
It doesn't matter what the reason for her actions (inactions actually). The fact is she agreed to XYZ for $50, I paid her the $50, she did not deliver XYZ.
I intend to avoid the place and I certainly will avoid her at ShowWorld. As they say "Burn me once, shame on you, burn me twice, shame on me."
the key to getting a good experience at TOL is pay the gorilla then if she doesnt do what u want the gorilla will set her straight.
Genius, I stopped by today and I can confirm that Mia is China Doll from ShowWorld. The first time I encounterred her at Show World was when the girls were still sitting in the back and I spent about five minutes sitting with her and she kept trying to convince me to get dance without her promising anything. She kept saying she would give me a sensual massage. This is after I had visited and negociated CBJ's and F/S with Alize and others so no way was I going back there without garuntees. There was someting very alluring about her though. I can see why you like her, she is just your type, a petite, pretty Asian. Before seeing her at Show World I had seen her sitting at TOL and asked her her name (Mia) but something struck me odd about her. She would look alternatly bored then horny. But overall it seemed like she really didn't want to be there. Another time I spent some time negociating with her and finally got her to agree to a hj. Once in the room her aditude changed and she was actually a pleasure to be with. She was funny in an offbeat kind of way but I did leave with a smile. Today she seemed pensive again. It was like "I know you, you give me a hard time (meaning the negociations)" I brought up that my freind had a bad time with you and she got pissed but also seemed concern. She said it was probably during the day and made a motion with her eyes at the gorilla. She said he is the owner. She seemed surprised when I left without a dance. I have to say her body although petite is fucking sexy as hell. There is just something about her thighs and pussy area (completly shaven) that is sooooo hot, the skin color, the shape, the smoothness of the skin. I would love to fuck her. But her face didn't look as good today. She seemed sick or tired. She seems beaten down or on drugs.
Filipina. As you say " Philippines history as a Spanish colony." mixed with some asian qualities. Could also be from certain parts of S. America such as Chile.
Was the "gorilla" working when you nailed Karina?
i was trying to say x. sorry if i'm done something wrong.
mia doesn't also work at ********, does she? i got cbj from a very petite asian girl with long hair at ********. she spoke engrish, if you know what i mean.
as for TOL, that place can get an uncomfortable ghetto vibe. the gorilla adds to it. he should be there for security, not just for the girls, but for the customers and the whole environment. they should fire him, (if they're not afraid) and get someone more professional.
i nailed some white chick named kareena there before. she was cool. no complaints from me yet other than the bad atmosphere and parking lot scene there.
the girls at ******* have always charged me too much and under delivered. after my debacle with that nasty cunt Lisa, i'll NEVER go to CB again. show world has always delivered for me. strawberry works there and she is always a good little slut. i used to fuck her in her car in manhattan when she was a street walker in the late 90's.
billyS - Thanks for your input. Yeah, she was erotic in an unusual way. Seemed more like she belonged in some kind of opium den whorehouse in French Indochina, than in the TOL. Good to know that she is not a total scam artist all the time.
Genius, you keep insisting that she isn’t Asian, although you say possibly Philippina. I consider Philipinas to be Asian,, Of course, they often have a strong injection of Spanish due to the Philippines history as a Spanish colony. Genius, if she’s not Caucasian, and not Asian, what do you think she is?
Billy, I walked in the door and saw her before I saw him. Seems like I made a mistake. It happens to the best of us sometimes. Also, she is not Asian, possibly a Filipina.
Since the girl works at S W, I suggest that if any of UG guys gets to see her - be wary - a word to the wise.
She absolutely, unequivocally made a deal and outright lied once she got the money and acted totally like she didn't know what I was talking about. I just came from the gym, freshly showered, I am trim and fit and reasonably pleasant to talk to and am over the age of looking like a cop, so I do not think it is anything I said or anything about my appearance or hygine that changed her mind. I think she just thought - WTF, I have this guys money - what is he gonna do about it if I don't deliver.
Key - BTW, Mia goes by China Doll at show World.
Genius - I don't know why you go there when Mr. Gorrilla is there. If I stop by it is at night when there is this old skiny guy who doesn't say much. I havn't found anything remotely attractive there in a while, since I fucked Paradise.
Key - The Mia you are thinking of is some sort of a chink, probably Phillapino. She actually does what Genius is accusing his girl of. Mia also works at ShowWorld with a different name. She is hard to negoiate with but she does have a certain sexieness to her. I got a hj from her and overall I enjoyed her company. She is a little off-beat in a good way.
Given your BTW statement, I’m gonna go with the “she took the easy way out” theory. Why? Who knows, maybe that is her standard MO, or she was having her period that day or a herpes outbreak. I think any monger would be well advised by your posting to avoid sessions when the “gorilla” is at the front.
Speaking of which, Genius, you may have been in a classic lose lose situation. Do nothing and get ripped off , or strongly assert yourself in the first 5 minutes and have her give a signal to the “gorilla” to bust in, rough you up, and throw you out. Unfortunately, once they get your money, they hold all the cards.
Genius, you said she was not Caucasian, not Asian and had light skin. What ethnic origin do you think she is? The girl I’m talking about (LOL, I hope it’s the same one ) had long, straight, black hair and her wintertime skin was as white as paper. She had a very exotic look, a mixture of some sort. As I said before, maybe Philippina. Although, now that I think of her, maybe French- Indonesian. I asked her, but don’t recall her answer, although I still recall her visual appearance. She was that intriguing.
I don't think so as I was the one who brought up what I wanted and how much I was willing to pay.
BTW, my way of saying it was to say I only have enough on me to pay for the house and a $50 tip. Will that get me what I am asking for. When she said yes, she then saw me open my wallet and take out the house fee and her tip, leaving the wallet with just a single in it (the rest of my money is left in the car).
Genius, you are probably right about having been played by Mia, and definitely you were ripped off by the house. Although, I don’t think it was for her to avoid getting busted, as much as to try to hit you up for more money. Her motive might have been to try to get as much cash as she could from you while she had you there in a buying position. The hell with maybe repeat business, may have been her attitude, because she needed money right then and there. When I met her the place was deserted. She was hungry for business. I’m not an attorney but I imagine that your detailed verbal agreement would have been illegal enough for a bust, if you were LE.
Maybe, someone else has had experience with her, and can add to your posts. I wouldn’t expect you to try again , and I sure as hell ain’t gonna. Others have reported good experiences here with other girls, and perhaps only when someone else is at the front desk , so YMMV.
She is not Asian, possibly a Filipina.
As far as budgeting my time - I am not the professional giving the service in a given time period; she is. She knew exactly what was to be accomplished in the 20-minute time period because it was discussed and a price agreed upon.
I can only assume that this is what she does. There are good reasons for her to do this, the main one being that she can not possibly get busted for illegal activities if she never does any. She wouldn’t even take off her bottom (that was discussed also - I told her before I agreed to the session " everything comes off - right?" and she said Yup.) There was time for that as before the knock on the door I asked her to take off her bottoms. Its almost as if she gave a signal to the boss to knock on the door as all she would do is pull them down a bit so I could see the crack of her ass and then the knock happened.
I have been a monger for a very long time and am pretty sure I know all the angles.
As far as I am concerned this is strictly a rip-off joint and I am just letting other UG'ers know so as not to bother pissing away their time and money.
Genius, I’m pretty much just a lurker on this board (for a variety of reasons - not the least being that I have very little to contribute), however, in appreciation of the numerous, educational posts of yours that I have read - here is my take on this experience of yours.
I visit these places infrequently, just out of socio-sexual curiosity and for cheap thrills. Until I found this board, I didn’t even know that some services were potentially available. I never partake due to the cost/time factor.
About 6 months ago, I last visited TOL. I met and spoke with Mia. She is as you describe, petite & pretty. Asian, maybe Philippina - I asked but no longer recall. She was pushing pretty hard for me to take a dance, which I declined to do, although I expressed an interest for the near future. We did not talk specifics of services, she did not volunteer any and I did not push it because I really had no intention of closing the deal. She did say that she would take very good care of me, and she had that experienced, but still young enough to be sexy, way about her that made it easy to imagine that a highly erotic, oriental experience was possible.
OK, back to your visit. I am not so sure Mia is as much of a liar as you perceive her to be. Genius, I think you made a couple of strategic mistakes. One, you did not budget your limited time. By your own count, you had only 6 minutes left when your session was ended. You didn’t say what you expected to occur in your session, but 6 minutes doesn’t seem like it would have been enough time left for any happy ending, at that point. Of course , the house did rip you off on the time. I think that , because you are entrenched in AMP mode, you allowed time to be spent on the massage that you really would have rather spent otherwise. Now Mia, should also have been aware of this, but as these types of providers so often do - she took the easy way out. Maybe, she thought she could get you for an extension of your session for more money. I wonder if you might have had a better outcome, if you had stayed in control when the session began, as you were when you were in the negotiating phase.
Genius, on a personal note, I would have guessed that you would have sprung for a completely different looking girl for variety/change of pace, but I guess you are deep into AMP mode. That, and Mia is very appealing. Good luck, Genius, in your future endeavors.
I sometimes stop at all the places (X, SW,CB and TOL) just to take a look around if I'm in the area (not often). The girl at TOL was the only one I had any interest in. We discussed what I was going to get for my tip - she simply lied and the gorilla went along with it.
It seems like an incredibly stupid way of doing business as you never get repeat customers. They obviously didn't know I post on UG (or do not care).
Otherguys have gotten good results with the right girl ( a while back to be fair). Maybe things have changed for them regarding LE and they can't get away with anyting - didn't offer any "donuts" maybe?
I've had so much better lluck with the AMPs so I'm going to just write this off as taking one for the team and as a learning experience.
Genius, I know you know better but why not hit up X instead... Ive had good times at X these days...
what do you really expect from a strip club named after a Springsteen album?
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