Viking Blonde Beauty looking for her King between February 8th and 11th!

Discussion in 'New York' started by Inga, Jan 28, 2001.

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  1. guy catelli

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    i'm sending a fluffball to an escort at the moment. i'll get to you later.

    {see what i mean, Val?;)}
  2. justme

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    Willow -

    I'm glad that the issue of Halmos was straightened out for you, but would point out that I definened the term over seven hours before you asked. Although I concede that my writing is so dull that you probably skipped over the definition.

    Furthermore, at this point it would be extremely stupid of me to be hurling under the table insults at you when you appear to be the first providors whose responses are written with such plain candor*.

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    *-with a nod to Inga and her obscured (but histarically poingent and quite pleasing) candor
  3. justme

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    Guy - are you willingly forgetting our very lengthy discussion on the the sociological implications of certain words? Of course I understand the issue of loaded terminology. The only point I usually try to make is that this is not mixed company. Everyone here is comfortable with what's going on, and so I don't see a need to pretty things up for each other.

    I don't like being called a spick, wetback, beener, or greaser. When people ask for my race, I usually reply, 'Mexican-American'. Now, here in Texas there used to be (and sadly still are) restaurants that you could walk into that would proclaim, 'No dogs or Mexicans allowed'. Similarly, I have been referred to as, 'Hey, you Mexican,' on occasion. So to many Texans of direct(?) European descent, 'Mexican' is an insult. On the other hand, everyone in my family calls each other a Mexican, my friends (most of whom are not Mexican) call me a Mexican, and for the most part, unless offense was intended, I would not be offended by a stranger reffering to me as a Mexican (as a side note, Mexican nationals are usually offended by my being referred to as a Mexican, but that's a whole different issue). So whether or not I'm insulted by being called a Mexican comes on a case by case basis, with context giving me a clue as to how I should react.

    I understand why a providor wouldn't want to be labled a whore, ho, or street-walker. I don't understand the objection to the term, 'prostitute', in the context of these boards however, because I just don't see how any of us are using it pejoritively.

    As to the issue of stratification by appelation, I would suggest that my referring to myself as a proletariot won't make me so (although I am often accused of taking a 'prolier than though' attitude). Besides the whole notion of discrete class structure makes me nauseous.
  4. Inga

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    Thank you!

    Gentlemen!

    Thank you All for very nice messages, emails, phone calls and interest in my
    services!
    Since I am taking only one appointment a day with a min. 2 hours., I am already
    booked up for all 4 days I will be staying in your wonderful city at this time.

    If you are interested, you can still book me up for the beginning of March.

    Thank you so much!

    Inga
  5. Slinky Bender

    Slinky Bender The All Powerful Moderator

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    Willow,
    Don't be fooled, our frog never turns into a prince.
  6. pswope

    pswope One out of three

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    a rose by any other name.....

    In the early 90's,at a corporation I was working at,we had a bout of job title inflation. More VP's than rank and filers. A very competetent gent complained to me about a subordinate having a superior title.
    Remedy
    Printed a card for him with the title:

    "POPE"

    His self esteem,re-established,he continued his stellar performance.

    The semantics of sex workers have to do with self esteem,differentiation and marketing. Since the titles are often self attached,they hold little universal meaning(n.b. to Willow-if there was a courtesan academy,offering a degree,than perhaps there would be some universal meaning to the term. imo,you'd be wasting your money. better to spend it on Art Class).

    Having been with self described
    "working girls","providers","escorts","hos" ,"courtesans*"etc,I can say that there is no correlation between the nomenclature and the experience the lady provides.
    And as a john,in the final analysis,that's all that matters.
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    *I patronized a sex worker,who called herself a working girl. After,she put up her website,she became a "gentleman's companion". Having been with her in both incarnations,the only difference I noticed was an increase in price.

    [Edited by pswope on 02-02-2001 at 08:47 AM]
  7. guy catelli

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    oh, frogggg ....

    frog, this is your 'cue' ;)


    [Edited by guy catelli on 02-02-2001 at 07:41 AM]
  8. Willow

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    Math and its symbols

    Well, I was always terrible at math. I must have slept through 10th grade geometry...or was it algebra? However; I do like reading, especially books on far-away lands and frogs that turn into princes.

    Willow
  9. Willow

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    Power thing

    Guy,
    That was very well said. I think you really explained this defining one's social position with respect to their personal power in a proverbial nutshell. Frankly, I never liked "titles" either. What does it really mean in the grand scheme of things anyway? Jack - S---!

    Willow
  10. guy catelli

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    dear wsb and justme,

    as i am sure you are aware, i only torment those who are intelligent. like the 'progressive' taxation of income, it's based on the axiom that from those to whom more has been given, more shall be asked.

    i am also sure that you are aware that 'who-names-whom' has been a political issue (ie, as in who has the *power* to name whom) since biblical times. for example, Genesis is filled with narratives about names as signifiers.

    and, i am further sure you are aware that most americans of italian descent would prefer to be called by others 'italian-americans' rather than 'guineas', 'dagos', or 'wops'. and you know that to the extent that others had the power to publicly designate them in a way contrary to their wish would be a measure of the others' *power* over them.

    and, you probably are aware that one group's word for 'friend' is their conqueror's name for 'stranger'.

    do medical doctors have the power to be known as 'physicians', rather than 'quacks'; lawyers as 'attorneys', rather than 'shysters'; politicians as 'public servants', rather than 'clubhouse hacks'?

    and, you know that an escort who typically books multihour dates is no more doing the *same* thing as the woman in a 15-minute hotsheet house than Floyd Abrams is doing the *same* thing as an ambulance chasing slip-and-fall attorney, even though certain elements are constant in both instances.

    so, it's not merely a "semantic" matter at all. it's a matter of who has the *power* to publicly lord it over whom.

    since you both are highly intelligent and articulate, and since you both already know all of this, might there be some basis for a reasonable person to wonder if there is some kind of 'block' at work here? and, if so, what the nature, purpose, and function of that 'block' might be?

    sincerely,

    guy



    [Edited by guy catelli on 02-01-2001 at 10:12 PM]
  11. Ozzy

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    it's also because you can't believe everything you read.


    plus i like pictures.
  12. guy catelli

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    that's why you have common sense.
  13. Slinky Bender

    Slinky Bender The All Powerful Moderator

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    It's the Mathematician's "bow" ( Like, after the magician puts the sawed-in-half lady back together again ).

    [Edited by slinkybender on 02-01-2001 at 07:24 PM]
  14. HornDogBuddah

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    Willow, I add my appreciation for your honesty and forthrightness to those others who have already done so. Quod erat demonstrandum (QED) and [ ] are similar ways of punctuating or declaring the end of a logical proof. Intellectual masturbation, in many instances. Required in proofs for 10th grade math. Of little value in a thread about why you do what you do.
  15. Ozzy

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    willow, your alright in my book.

    and it's a very small book since i don't read much.

    welcome to the board and i for one, appreciate your honesty. :D
  16. Willow

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    A Conversationalist

    I don't believe I am being paid to be a good conversationalist. I thought my earlier reply made this clear.


    BTW - pardon my ignorace. What does "holmus' and () mean? Are these so nasty terms that you need to write in cryptic code, or are you just trying to exclude the masses from your high English diatribe?
  17. guy catelli

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    i do.
  18. wsb

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    Yeah swope, but it's a bit phoney don't you think?

    I think the "low end" (i.e., those without Internet access) ladies are a lot more honest in that regard and not as concerned with inventing some sort of nom de guerre to mask their true occupation. I mean, what's so bad about admitting that your occupation involves "pleasuring" men? Do the ladies really believe that johns are paying them for their skills as conversationalists?

    --WSB
  19. justme

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  20. pswope

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    wsb

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