Discussion in 'Cheap Thrills' started by LIDAWN, Feb 18, 2001.
and that one makes me "silver"
Hi ho! Giddiup!!
BTW, the answer to the potato joke is One potato has "Idaho" printed on the side....
............wait for it...........ah...see you got it!!!!
According to the standard wording of indies' web offers, you are paying for their time and companionship. It is not an offer of prostitution. Anything that happens between the two of you is consensual adult behavior and has nothing to do with any $ you have paid her. Again, you are paying for her time and companionship, not for whatever part of her body may touch whatever part of yours. OTOH, if she has some open time slots that she wishes to fill, the enterprising indy might rent her time a little more economically for the value shopper.
Another possible technique for pricing
I mean this in a fun way, not nasty:
$100 for every inch based on the average between
your size (when soft and small) and (hard and bigger).
I wouldn't save any money on this technique though,
as my number would be close to the price for over 40,
which I am, so I would qualify for the $250/hr rate.
Also, I prefer doing other things besides FS.
Typically if you go to a massage place, you can
do other things (TF, BJ, HJ) for a more reasonable
fee. If you go to an indy, their fee is more b/c
they offer FS.
My question is this, is it reasonable to ask the
indy lady for a cheaper session price for other forms
of service, especially if you're not interested in FS?
I know that time is money. But if your schedule was
open, would my question warrant a cheaper session fee?
Thanks for your sincerity for my nieve question!!!
I'm looking forward to meeting with you someday in
rnb, I suspected as much as well. Better for the hobbyist, and the hell with the economist.
Based on my experience, I think Dawn wants to have fun.
I second TnS in his declaration about demand and supply around the 300/hr price point. Lots of supply in the city, less so in the burbs and on guyland. However, demand is distributed similarly. Therefore, you almost get to pick your price (there is no such thing as perfect competition in this market, so you most certainly do not have to be a price taker).
But maximizing profit may or may not be your main driver. (You sound like you want to pick and choose, to a certain degree.) So, Dawn, are you interested in maximizing profit? Or is something else equally important to you?
Since business charges reflect costs of time and materials, provider charges must reflect costs. Eg. an independant on LI has much less time in travel with a local client. Price should be reflective.
Manhattan or out of town calls should be higher for a LI woman because of travel time.
Then their is supply and demand. I have found that there are many quality ladies in the 300-350 range per hour and do not see the need to spend much more. 2 hr rates 450-600 are warranted, in my opinion, after knowing a provider and after a rapport has been consumated.
I hope this has helped.
i concur with Othello.
my advice continues to be to negotiate each fee on a case-by-case basis (after all, that's what makes you an 'indy').
my suggested rules of thumb were for your own private calculations of what you should ask for at your end, not for publically disseminating in your marketing materials.
Although I'm inclined to support guy catelli's pricing methodology where "mature" gents tend to pay less, perhaps you should consider the rate schedules for attorneys and psychologists for your pricing model. You provide a professional service in the areas of advice and therapy and should be compensated accordingly.
I think the $200 to $500/hour range would allow you access to a reasonably broad client segment. From a profit maximization standpoint you should price towards the higher end of that scale. Since I am not personally familar with your services, I regreatably can only address your query in general terms.
I will however offer this final caveat: keep your pricing schedule simple. We are simple men (who may think that we are complex) with simple needs (affection being one of them). Please don't confuse us with multi-tiered pricing schedules
sweetie, there is no such thing as a stupid question. but in my experience there seems to be two general pricing guidlines which are affordable to me......
300/1hr 500/2hr 700/3hr
or the upper level:
400/1hr 600/2hr 800,850/3hr
and then there are the ladies that charge 500/hr with a 2hr min. and up. that is a bit over my head.
as far as what i expect, i expect the lady to be clean, attractive, attentive, funny, personable,compassionate
thoughtful, and respectful. . and i mean respectful to me as a person not as a source of income or a business transaction. and i in turn will treat them with the utmost respect,, kindness, gentleness, and cleanliness, etc.
hope this helps
i look forward to viewing your new site...see you soon
One has FORK me printed on her side?
OK, now I know that you have the answer and you're just making fun of me.........
I dunno. Maybe one has grown in NY printed on the side and that one is the provider?
you walk up to one and make her an offer.....
if she slaps you, then you know it's the other one.
OK, so two potatoes are walking down the street, how do you tell which one is the provider ? Well, what might be printed on the side of that one ? ( the clue is just before the riddle in that orignal post ).
Besides SB, just what is the heading of this particularsection on UG, "CHEAP THRILLS"
[Edited by Phantom on 02-18-2001 at 07:37 PM]
Sorry SB, but YOU posed a question. After pondering on the possible answer and being unable to come up with one, I decided to ask the APM, HOW DOES one tell which..........
[Edited by Phantom on 02-18-2001 at 07:28 PM]
You're trying to get me in trouble, huh ?
[Edited by slinkybender on 02-18-2001 at 07:16 PM]
really great survey of the various factors, SB. i'd like to add that all of these 'explanations' are really descriptions of the circumstances surrounding a price after it has been obtained (supposedly), rather than 'predictions' of what prices would obtain for a different escort now or at some point in the future.
even in the world of civilian commerce, with loads of MBAs working on the problem, the only way to really know what the price 'should' be ... is good ole 'trial and error'.
if i were an independent, i wouldn't put any price on my web site or other marketing materials. i might say that "my fees are competitive", and leave it at that until a prospective client made what seemed like a serious inquiry.
for starters, i'd have something in mind as my 'cover charge' for showing up. then, depending upon who the client was, and what she wanted, i'd negotiate a price for her individual session.
if she were just looking for a dinner companion, that would be one fee. if she were expecting me to also go down on her, that would be a different fee, and so on.
then, even if my clients compared prices with one another, i could say to the ones who paid more that they also got more, because the lower priced session didn't include (whatever).
and, as SB has made clear, an important factor is the escort's own goals. we don't know what yours are, and it's none of our business. but, for example, the 'casual escort' might not really need the money, but might enjoy the 'trip' on those occasions when a guy is willing to fork over big bucks for someone presentable to come to his hotel room at 1 in the morning.
another escort might be a single mom with some serious expenses related to the needs of one or more of her children. she is likely to be a revenue-maximizer who sets her fee to optimize the price times number of clients booked.
a third, and i've read a number of these on the boards, might set a fee below revenue maximization, because she prefers grateful Kmart shoppers (to use Tankcommander's metaphor) to arrogant Giorgio Armani shoppers.
this may sound like an 'excuse' on their part. but, actually, it is consistent with what escorts have told me privately is their number one complaint about clients. contrary to what's posted on asp-boards, it's not client hygiene. rather, it's client arrogance.
say a guy whose father eked out a living pushing a moving cart himself (because the horse had already died from the strain) is a proctologist making a seven figure income. if someone he's just paid a big fee doesn't 'jump to' when he barks an order, his ego is threatened; so, he throws a tantrum. some escorts would rather avoid clients like that in the first place, so they lower their fee accordingly, in order to be more selective at their end.
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